[Lancaster] idea for regular computer evening at the Basement

[Ken Hough]

Yikes!!! It's a minefield!

Thank heavens for open source/free software.

Ken Hough

On Tuesday 21 October 2008 06:12, mp wrote:
> basement sounds like a great idea!
>
> with regards to licenses, hmm, be careful?
>
> Wayne Ward wrote:
> > Ah yes its a bloody con really you should be able to have the licence
>
> An OEM license is not the same as a retailed "stand-alone" version of a
> product from Microsoft and different EULAs apply to the different
> commodities. If you didn't have extreme limitations on your OEM Windows,
> your PC would have cost something like another 50 squid.
>
> > Usually they have a sticker on the box i just sell them thats the
> > licence!
>
> Licenses range from total limitations (from:
> http://www.technibble.com/windows-xp-home-license-agreement-translated/ ):
>
> "10. NOT FOR RESALE SOFTWARE. Software identified as “Not For Resale” or
> “NFR,” may not be sold or otherwise transferred for value, or used for
> any purpose other than demonstration, test or evaluation."
>
> and:
>
> "1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run
> one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation,
> terminal or other device (”Workstation Computer”). The Software may not
> be used by more than one processor at any one time on any single
> Workstation Computer."
>
> ... to minor limitations, - even if you have actually bought (??) a
> real, full Win XP CD with license and all, by itself, in a shop, like
> you'd by any other thing, there are still limitations to what you are
> _legally_ allowed to do
> (from:http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html#8 ):
>
> =====
> ""Selling/Transferring License Ownership"
>
> The selling or transfer of  license ownership on previously activated XP
> OS is limited to retail versions only. OEM versions are restricted to
> the original computer it is installed and sale or transfer must include
> the computer.
>
> If you are selling the copy of XP you removed, you will need to sell
> with all manuals, documentation, etc. that was originally supplied. You
> should also include a receipt stating you sold the copy of XP in
> compliance with the EULA.  Steps 2 thru 4 (from FAQ#6) should also be
> explained to the buyer. It is not necessary for the buyer to explain
> anything during the phone call activation; other than it was removed in
> compliance with the EULA and installed on a new computer. Activation is
> anonymous and supplying information other than what is required will
> often delay the activation until documentation is faxed or  snail mail
> verifying the transfer was in compliance with the XP EULA. If prompted
> to supply information other than the previously stated requirement, ask
> to speak to a supervisor; if you are in compliance; state that you need
> your new install of XP on upgraded hardware activated and you meet the
> required terms of the EULA agreement.
>
> There is no requirement you must state you are a new owner of a
> previously activated XP.""
> =====
>
> This also goes for corporations that change structures through mergers
> and other forms of reorganisation:
> http://www.microsoft.com/hk/licensing/faq/faqVolLicensing.mspx#q7
>
> Funnily, if you want to read the EULA for Win XP Home Edition you are
> met with:
>
> "We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. See below for
> search results close to your request, or try a new search.":
> http://www.microsoft.com/err/windowsxp/eula/home
>
> The original draconian measures of the Vista EULA, far beyond the above,
> have been revised by Micro$oft - allegedly due to concerns about the PC
> hobbyists (recall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists
> ) (from: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061102-8140.html ):
>
> "Furthermore, Microsoft has clarified the licenses with regards to
> re-installation. "You may uninstall the software and install it on
> another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license
> between devices," the license reads.
>
> Additionally, Microsoft clarified transfer rights to other users. You
> can transfer your license of Windows Vista to another user provided that
> you uninstall the original copy and do not keep any of the materials
> from the original installation."
>
> anyway -------- not exactly a big market place, unless you are a
> software license lawyer, of course.
>
> > got �20 for a XP licence the other day!!!
>
> Poor him or her! :)
>
> m
>
>
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