[Lincs] Re: Lincs Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1

Wed May 24 09:27:48 BST 2006

Hello Simon,

I agree with you. We have to collect tasks and need a direction. Let me
start:

- Remove the wiki

Bye,

Marc

Simon Paulger wrote the following on 24.05.2006 09:41:
> 
> I would not mind contributing into the website. But it needs direction
> and input from the entire lug.
> 
> If members could meet to discuss things (or just meet to hang out on the
> irc channel advertised), then perhaps it could move forward.
> 
> Is a wiki necessary. Why not a forum & traditional FAQ? I would also
> consider how many points of contact are really necessary. Irc, mailing
> list, forum, standard email etc. Only this mailing list seems to be used.
> 
> Quoting Marc McGuinness <marc at mcguinness.de>:
> 
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> in November Dave Rice was going to update our web page, but
>> unfortunately I can't notice any progress.
>>
>> We still haven't configured a module to prevent spam to our wiki.
>>
>> Bye,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> iain Baker wrote the following on 24.05.2006 00:38:
>>> i have given up on checking the wiki it just gets more bizzare every
>>> day...
>>>
>>> although i have also lost all my log in bits so i havent been able to
>>> update anything in ages (in fact since the date of the last news
>>> item)...
>>>
>>> it needs fixing at some point
>>>
>>> On 5/23/06, Andy Cooper <andy_cooper187 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ive gone on to x chat oftc #llug. must be in the wrong place
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: Simon Paulger <spaulger at coderesult.co.uk>
>>>> >Reply-To: Lincolnshire Linux User Group <lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> >To: lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> >Subject: Re: [Lincs] Re: Lincs Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1
>>>> >Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:55:08 +0100
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I've been browsing the llug site.
>>>> >
>>>> >Is it just me, or does nobody go on the irc server? I followed the
>>>> details
>>>> >on the site but nobody on irc.
>>>> >
>>>> >irc.oftc.net/#llug
>>>> >
>>>> >Also, when was the last time anyone checked out the wiki on the site.
>>>> >Quite amusing.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Quoting Andy Cooper <andy_cooper187 at hotmail.co.uk>:
>>>> >
>>>> >>is there a common chat applet that can be used, ie x chat or mIRC? it
>>>> >>would make things easier
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>From: "Mick" <m.t.barnes at ntlworld.com>
>>>> >>>Reply-To: Lincolnshire Linux User Group <lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> >>>To: "Lincolnshire Linux User Group" <lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> >>>Subject: Re: [Lincs] Re: Lincs Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1
>>>> >>>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:42:48 +0100
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Very well said that man ;-)
>>>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "iain Baker"
>>>> <iain.dbaker at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>To: "Lincolnshire Linux User Group" <lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:30 PM
>>>> >>>Subject: Re: [Lincs] Re: Lincs Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Dearest Joe...
>>>> >>>you have subscribed to this mailing list, probably at
>>>> >>>http://www.lincs.lug.org.uk
>>>> >>>if you no longer wish to recieve the lincolnshire linux user groups
>>>> >>>mailing list simply visit
>>>> >>>https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/lincs and unsubscribe
>>>> from
>>>> >>>there...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>please do not use foul language on this mailing list as it is not
>>>> >>>censored, and there is no age limit... also please do not get
>>>> angry at
>>>> >>>us for talking to each other when you have chosen to recieve the
>>>> >>>emails.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>thankyou
>>>> >>>iain
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>On 5/23/06, joe kenny <kennington.666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>Stop this subsription crap, stop emailing me
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>On 23/05/06, Andy Cooper <andy_cooper187 at hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
>>>> >>>>>Thanks for the info, i'll take it all into consideration and see
>>>> >>>>what > best
>>>> >>>>>suits me, any more problems and i'll give you a shout, your a good
>>>> >>>>>bunch
>>>> >>>>you
>>>> >>>>>lot.
>>>> >>>>>thanks again
>>>> >>>>>Coops
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> >From: Simon Paulger <spaulger at coderesult.co.uk >
>>>> >>>>> >Reply-To: Lincolnshire Linux User Group
>>>> <lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> >>>>> >To: lincs at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> >>>>> >Subject: Re: [Lincs] Re: Lincs Digest, Vol 51, Issue 1
>>>> >>>>> >Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:25:55 +0100
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >Quoting Alistair Crust <alistair at skegnessgrammar.org>:
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >>On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 12:41 +0100, Ed wrote:
>>>> >>>>> >>>Why not download a couple of live CDs or get them on magazine
>>>> cover
>>>> >>>>> >>>disks.
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>I would recommend that also.
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>>There are several things to bear in mind:
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>>Graphical interface: Main ones are Gnome (simple and Mac-like)
>>>> >>>>and > >>>KDE
>>>> >>>>> >>>(More fully featured but steeper learning curve).
>>>> >>>>> >>  I agree with that. although there are others like iceWm
>>>> (simple
>>>> >>>>win > >> 95
>>>> >>>>> >>look), enlightenment (very eye candy, but memory hungry)
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>>If you want to have all the packages individually compiled
>>>> for your
>>>> >>>>> >>>system then Gentoo has merits.
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>As a beginner I hated going too fast too soon. Something like
>>>> above
>>>> >>>>> >>would just freak me out! Your right it would provide a few
>>>> merits..
>>>> >>>>> >>namely being tailored for your hardware and running quicker
>>>> than
>>>> >>>>> >>"normal" linux's. but not necessary for a "Beginner", not yet
>>>> anyway
>>>> >>>>> >>he'll find his own path there in the end... I did! just because
>>>> >>>>of > >>sheer
>>>> >>>>> >>curiosity not because some one told me to get in at the deep
>>>> end!
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>>If you're after a gnome interface then Gentoo seems to be the
>>>> most
>>>> >>>>> >>>popular at the moment.
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>Not according to distrowatch.com take a look for yourself.
>>>> Ubuntu
>>>> >>>>> >>(surprisingly what I use for Skegness Grammer School) the kids
>>>> find
>>>> >>>>>it
>>>> >>>>> >>easy to use and straint forward.. it also gets the curiosity
>>>> going
>>>> >>>>>on
>>>> >>>>> >>what happening behind the scenes... which is just were you want
>>>> >>>>to > >>start
>>>> >>>>> >>with linux (you more likely to stick with it). If you go to the
>>>> >>>>> >>compiling a toolset, then going through several stages of
>>>> emerging
>>>> >>>>> >>packages before you can actually use the thing, route, they to
>>>> end
>>>> >>>>>up
>>>> >>>>> >>scaring people off. Linux isn't scary... so why make it seem
>>>> like
>>>> >>>>it > >>is?
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>>If you prefer KDE then I'd go for OpenSuSe which is quite
>>>> polished.
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>read bloated...
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>>What I would do is either be prepared to reinstall a few
>>>> until you
>>>> >>>>> >>>find one that suits the way you work and supports your
>>>> hardware
>>>> >>>>> >>>easily. Alternatively just go for the live CD approach and try
>>>> >>>>>before
>>>> >>>>> >>>you "buy"
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>Very good idea openSuse has a live cd, as does ubuntu.. in fact
>>>> >>>>>ubuntu
>>>> >>>>> >>has two main ones, one for gnome, one for kde (Kubuntu). not
>>>> sure
>>>> >>>>> >>about
>>>> >>>>> >>fedora core but they I think core 5 came on the last edition of
>>>> >>>>>linux
>>>> >>>>> >>format magazine (WHSmiths often have it).
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >Fedora core does not nativaly have a live cd. A third part has
>>>> made
>>>> >>>>>an
>>>> >>>>> >unofficial one based on fc4 however, by the name of Adios.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>------
>>>> >>>>> >>>         hey there,
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Ive been dabbling with the idea of converting to
>>>> linux but
>>>> >>>>>i
>>>> >>>>> >>>         dont really
>>>> >>>>> >>>         know much about it. i was wondering if you
>>>> knowledgable
>>>> >>>>> >>> people
>>>> >>>>> >>>         could
>>>> >>>>> >>>         recommend which OS to start with and how i should go
>>>> >>>>about > >>> it.
>>>> >>>>> >>>         any
>>>> >>>>> >>>         advice would be greatfully appreciated.
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Cheers
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Coops
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Mr. Andy Cooper
>>>> >>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Little London
>>>> >>>>> >>>         PE11 2UB Spalding
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Tel.
>>>> >>>>> >>>         Fax
>>>> >>>>> >>>         andy_cooper187 at hotmail.co.uk
>>>> >>>>> >>------
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>Kind regards
>>>> >>>>> >>Alistair Crust
>>>> >>>>> >>Systems Administrator
>>>> >>>>> >>Skegness Grammar School
>>>> >>>>> >>Vernon Road
>>>> >>>>> >>Skegness
>>>> >>>>> >>PE25 2QS
>>>> >>>>> >>TEL: 01754 610000 (ext'852)
>>>> >>>>> >>FAX: 01754 896875
>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>> >>
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>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him
>>>> "What's
>>>> >>>>> >wrong?"
>>>> >>>>> >Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I
>>>> thought
>>>> >>>>>you
>>>> >>>>> >looked a
>>>> >>>>> >bit off."
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >http://www.bash.org/?483136
>>>> >>>>> >A UNIX saleslady, Lenore,
>>>> >>>>> >Enjoys work, but she likes the beach more.
>>>> >>>>> >She found a good way
>>>> >>>>> >To combine work and play:
>>>> >>>>> >She sells C shells by the seashore.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > http://www.bash.org/?611737
>>>> >>>>> >I just opened the yellow pages at random to the "scaffolding"
>>>> page
>>>> >>>>> >there's an advert saying "ENSURE YOUR NEXT ERECTION IS IN SAFE
>>>> HANDS"
>>>> >>>>> >
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>>>> >>>
>>>> >A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's
>>>> >wrong?"
>>>> >Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you
>>>> >looked a
>>>> >bit off."
>>>> >
>>>> >http://www.bash.org/?483136
>>>> >A UNIX saleslady, Lenore,
>>>> >Enjoys work, but she likes the beach more.
>>>> >She found a good way
>>>> >To combine work and play:
>>>> >She sells C shells by the seashore.
>>>> >
>>>> >http://www.bash.org/?611737
>>>> >I just opened the yellow pages at random to the "scaffolding" page
>>>> >there's an advert saying "ENSURE YOUR NEXT ERECTION IS IN SAFE HANDS"
>>
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> 
> 
> A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's
> wrong?"
> Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you
> looked a
> bit off."