[Lincs] Distro

James Taylor jt at imen.org.uk
Thu Mar 29 16:56:33 BST 2007


>> Argh well I have started and you probally wont. I want to get this 
>> thing moving. How can a livecd not be user friendly (its not like you 
>> can install extra software on a live cd and btw gentoo does have X 
>> you know !!)? If you use ubuntu you are putting aload of extra crap 
>> no one wants. What make you think you should be the leader. You smell.
<non-joking>
Live CD's NEED crap on them. I mean that - you're demoing cool stuff on 
the Live CD, but does the install to HD part of the live cd need to 
install that stuff? Dosn't the knoppix hd installer (one of them at 
least, theres about four) allow you to install anything from base Debian 
(with NO crap) all the way upto the full knoppix stuff from the cd onto 
your hd?
</non-joking>
> The Gentoo crowd could stick to the Gentoo philosophy and have 
> everything compile for the machine in question. It'd only take a few 
> hours to boot a Gentoo live-CD, but it'd be totally worth it for the 
> 3% speed increase :)
<jokular>
Oh Please! Noooo! Not that Gentoo based is slower or anything - but I 
would say that MOST of the software you use isnt faster with custom 
compiles, and the few bits that are left that could do with custom 
compiles, serious debian/ubuntuers do anyways, but you dont have the 
slow install time of normal software. is your Firefox compile really 
that much faster then my bog standard one? Can you tell? Really? 
Honestly? (actually, on my new dual core, because the system is faster 
then the IO, you probably couldn't, because the processor is waiting for 
devices, Ok ok, use the enviromental card that you used less clock 
cycles so is cheaper in energy but I just typed apt-get install firefox 
and saved my sanity).

Did you know that you can get a debian package to make your box into a 
gentoo one? It does a download time, then fakes processor loading for 
half an hour before installign the binary, just to get that real gentoo 
experience.

I saw someone dist-upgrade a gentoo box one day. I say one day, I came 
on the saturday, saw him doing it, and came on the sunday and he was 
still waiting for the compiles to finish - he swapped to debian the week 
after I showed him how to do it faster ( I say showed, I mean in a 
gloating No wait, I ll make a cup of tea whilst it does this.. oh too 
late its FINISHED).
</jokular>


JT

ps knoppix / ubuntoo have stuff on them like sftp servers for booting 
other boxes from ram on eithernet cards as part of the live cd. Crazy!





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