[Lincs] Distro

[Phillip Taylor]

If you make a distro based on Gentoo with precompiled binaries etc
then aren't you taking away that flexability? And since you don't know
how users will use this distribution do you limit them to a tiny set
of packages (to save space) or do you concede that "less room" isn't
really that important if you do want to give people flexability?

The power of Gentoo is compiling your own machine specific code. If
you make a distribution CD for someone else they lose that benefit.

I can't help but think that perhaps your justification for the choice
isn't that well thought out. Have I missed something?

On 29/03/07, Chris Adams <heelfliper at gmail.com> wrote:
> I cat be botherd to read all your emails. The reason I am using gentoo is
> because it is flexible and will take up less room compared to ubuntu or
> knoppix.
>
>
> On 29/03/07, James Taylor <jt at imen.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >> Argh well I have started and you probally wont. I want to get this
> > >> thing moving. How can a livecd not be user friendly (its not like you
> > >> can install extra software on a live cd and btw gentoo does have X
> > >> you know !!)? If you use ubuntu you are putting aload of extra crap
> > >> no one wants. What make you think you should be the leader. You smell.
> > <non-joking>
> > Live CD's NEED crap on them. I mean that - you're demoing cool stuff on
> > the Live CD, but does the install to HD part of the live cd need to
> > install that stuff? Dosn't the knoppix hd installer (one of them at
> > least, theres about four) allow you to install anything from base Debian
> > (with NO crap) all the way upto the full knoppix stuff from the cd onto
> > your hd?
> > </non-joking>
> > > The Gentoo crowd could stick to the Gentoo philosophy and have
> > > everything compile for the machine in question. It'd only take a few
> > > hours to boot a Gentoo live-CD, but it'd be totally worth it for the
> > > 3% speed increase :)
> > <jokular>
> > Oh Please! Noooo! Not that Gentoo based is slower or anything - but I
> > would say that MOST of the software you use isnt faster with custom
> > compiles, and the few bits that are left that could do with custom
> > compiles, serious debian/ubuntuers do anyways, but you dont have the
> > slow install time of normal software. is your Firefox compile really
> > that much faster then my bog standard one? Can you tell? Really?
> > Honestly? (actually, on my new dual core, because the system is faster
> > then the IO, you probably couldn't, because the processor is waiting for
> > devices, Ok ok, use the enviromental card that you used less clock
> > cycles so is cheaper in energy but I just typed apt-get install firefox
> > and saved my sanity).
> >
> > Did you know that you can get a debian package to make your box into a
> > gentoo one? It does a download time, then fakes processor loading for
> > half an hour before installign the binary, just to get that real gentoo
> > experience.
> >
> > I saw someone dist-upgrade a gentoo box one day. I say one day, I came
> > on the saturday, saw him doing it, and came on the sunday and he was
> > still waiting for the compiles to finish - he swapped to debian the week
> > after I showed him how to do it faster ( I say showed, I mean in a
> > gloating No wait, I ll make a cup of tea whilst it does this.. oh too
> > late its FINISHED).
> > </jokular>
> >
> >
> > JT
> >
> > ps knoppix / ubuntoo have stuff on them like sftp servers for booting
> > other boxes from ram on eithernet cards as part of the live cd. Crazy!
> >
> >
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