[Liverpool] Linux on ARM

[Sebastian]

Hi Dan,

On 10/08/2010 01:00 PM, Dan Lynch wrote:
> I'm no expert on this but you asked about devices already running a full
> Linux OS on ARM. The N900 does this with the Snapdragon processor. Maemo
> is a modified but thankfully not dumbed down version of Debian. We all
> know the problems of it's lack of direction and uncertainty with the
> move to Meego. I'm not sure if it would make a good place to base future
> projects until it settles down but it is an example of the ARM/Linux
> touch screen marriage working well.

Yes, I did realised that I (nearly) forgot about the N900. I think of 
everything we talked about until now - N900 is the closest to a 
universally useful ARM device which would lend itself to further 
customisation. Shame that Nokia seem so confused about where they are 
going with it.

Sebastian

>
> Dan
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Jérôme Fuselier
> <jerome.fuselier at free.fr <mailto:jerome.fuselier at free.fr>> wrote:
>
>     Very close to the beaglboard but with real controls there's the
>     Pandora handheld that runs Linux on a ARM processor.
>
>     http://openpandora.org/
>
>     But it's still hard to get one :(
>
>
>
>     On 10/08/2010 11:27 AM, Graeme Dyas wrote:
>>     >From what I can remember it's not that simple. You can't just
>>     install the OS. You need some kind of boot-loader installed or you
>>     need a JTAG programmer. It would
>>     be possible to develop a universal boot loader but I don't see
>>     this happening any time soon. It would need some kind of standard
>>     bootloader/bios on all ARM Devices.
>>
>>
>>
>>     If you are interested in seeing how to install Linux on a ARM
>>     processor I would check out the http://beagleboard.org/ project.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 7 October 2010 13:39, Sebastian <shop at open-t.co.uk
>>     <mailto:shop at open-t.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Just a bit of an open topic - more for my general knowledge,
>>         if not for anything else :-)
>>
>>         I was thinking about the fact that the market is being taken
>>         over by these iPad clones (ish) - and all of the ones I've
>>         seen seem to be based on some flavour of ARM processor. I was
>>         wondering if this would mean a new impetus for the various ARM
>>         Linux distributions out there. I'm aware that there has been
>>         continuous effort in this direction over the years - but the
>>         most significant ARM devices available for (sort of) mass
>>         consumption have been some hackable routers, and the
>>         SheevaPlug device. I'm not really aware about other stuff with
>>         ARM inside that you could just buy and install Linux on.
>>
>>         Would people here think that we will see new effort directed
>>         towards hacking all these cheap(ish) ARM tablets and
>>         installing some proper Linux on them. I don't know much about
>>         hardware particularities for these devices - specially things
>>         like BIOS (or whatever ARM world tends to call it) - which
>>         might make it difficult or impossible to hack around on these.
>>         Or if this might mean that a generic ARM distribution couldn't
>>         pull it off - as each device might have esoteric ways of
>>         beeing rooted/jail-broken - which would fragment too much the
>>         development effort.
>>
>>         In case I wasn't clear enough in my ramble :-) : are we going
>>         to see a situation, like in the x86 world, where one can just
>>         download an ARM distribution, pick up any ARM tablet, install
>>         it and get on with things - kind of some sort of universal
>>         compatibility? Again, I don't enough about hardware aspects of
>>         the ARM world - so I would like to know if I'm imagining the
>>         impossible.
>>
>>         Any comments welcome,
>>
>>         Sebastian
>>
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