[Liverpool] Media Server/Ampache

Dan Lynch dan at danlynch.org
Sun Jun 10 21:40:15 UTC 2012


No it wasn't OwnCloud I was thinking of. Though a friend of mine runs that
and I hear it's very good. I think of that more as a cloud storage and
backup solution. I didn't realise it came with Ampache as well. That's very
interesting. Thanks for the tip.

XBMC is very cool and I'm meaning to set is up on an old machine to make
into a media centre. I thought it was a client though rather than a server
as such? I thought it could be run in client / server mode but that you'd
need XBMC at both ends. A bit like MythTV can do.

I think I may have lead everyone on a wild goose chase here. It was
probably Subsonic I was thinking of earlier and confusing the license in my
head. I'd be interested to check out OwnCloud in the near future. I'm going
to reuse an old desktop as a file server and it could be perfect. My little
flat is already brimming with old computers but one more can't hurt can it?
Only the electricity bill :)

Good luck with your setup Daniel. I'm sure it'll be fine. You can come and
share all this gained wisdom with us at a meeting sometime :)

Dan


On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Daniel Hartley <
D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks very much. I see the options about; I don't know how to combine
> them so your advice is very useful to me. I will try this.
>
> Have just got subsonic working over LAN successfully- having a few
> problems portforwarding though to get it working with universal plug n
> play- which I think then allows me to stream to phones, etc.,- videos too,
> which have been working well over lan.
>
> Will tinker with mpd and subsonic......slowly I learn- usually things get
> working properly 6 months later....
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 10/06/12 22:06, Simon Chambers wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> If it is just music that you wish to stream, you can setup MPD to sync
>> with a shoutcast server such as Icecast, and you could then stream that
>> direct to any device you wanted.  You wouldn't have playback control
>> directly of course, but it might work well enough for your needs and
>> it's fairly trivial to setup from what I can gather.  Alternatively you
>> can use the built in MPD streaming if you have a recent enough version.
>>
>> There's a tutorial on the MPD wiki.
>>
>> http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/**Configuration<http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Configuration>
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 04:10:01PM +0100, Daniel Hartley wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks guys.
>>>
>>> I've heard of Grooveshark. Unfortunately I have an iPhone
>>> (embarassingly...)
>>> and I don't think they're compatible. There are ways I could do this
>>> through
>>> uploading to cloud storage and streaming via ftp or something, but I
>>> can't be
>>> bothered waiting for uploads, etc. I also like the idea of getting round
>>> this
>>> more independently too- simple concept, just wish the actualization was
>>> simpler.
>>>
>>> I thought there would be people who have a functioning media server
>>> available
>>> anywhere with access to internet already...
>>>
>>> I've got the UI of mediatomb working....but now stuck with that, unable
>>> to
>>> figure out how to connect to it via another machine over lan!
>>>
>>> A talk would be great on this! I've also been thinking once my academic
>>> duties
>>> have settled down a bit I would love to present an autoethnography of my
>>> experience of becoming a Linux user, leaving the proper space of Windows,
>>> learning, the tactics of Linux and the strategies of Windows and apple.
>>> But
>>> that's another email I guess...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On 10/06/12 15:32, Adrian McEwen wrote:
>>>
>>>     Sounds like a talk on either of them would be good for some future
>>> LivLUG
>>>     :-D  (or, at least, I'd be interested in hearing more about the
>>> options and
>>>     what they do...)
>>>
>>>     Adrian.
>>>
>>>     On 10/06/12 15:23, Dan Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>>         No worries. There's a Free Software alternative to cloud
>>> services like
>>>         Google Music that's quite popular but the name completely
>>> escapes me
>>>         now. It's not Ampache I don't think. That's not very helpful.
>>> I'll keep
>>>         thinking and I'm sure it'll pop into my mind again. Anyone have
>>> an idea
>>>         what I'm talking about? It's a music server platform that you
>>> host
>>>         yourself. The most popular alternative for people who don't want
>>> to use
>>>         Google.
>>>
>>>         I'll be scratching my head over that trying to remember all day.
>>> Good
>>>         luck with Ampache and Mediatomb. They're slightly different
>>> projects I
>>>         think. Mediatomb is aimed at video as much as music.
>>>
>>>         See ya,
>>>
>>>         Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Hartley<
>>>         D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi Dan,
>>>
>>>             Thanks for the reply. I'd seen mediatomb about but it seemed
>>> to me
>>>             a lot of users pointed to Ampache. Ampache does look very
>>> good and
>>>             very extensible. If I knew anything about servers I might be
>>> able
>>>             to get it to work- you will probably get a lot more from it
>>> than I
>>>             have so far.
>>>
>>>             Meanwhile, I will get tinkering with Mediatomb. Thanks for
>>> the
>>>             re-heads up.
>>>
>>>             Seems to me my need for a media server able to serve/stream
>>> my
>>>             music to me anywhere is a really current issue and desire
>>> computer
>>>             users have. It's basically a personal spotify, etc., So it
>>> would be
>>>             great to have a more 'autonomous' way of doing it. It's all
>>> just so
>>>             I can stream music from my laptop when I walk into town at
>>>             lunchtime each day.
>>>
>>>             Regards,
>>>
>>>             Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 10/06/12 15:03, Dan Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>>                 Hopefully this isn't a completely off-topic reply but I
>>> don't
>>>                 know much about Ampache. I've never looked at it to be
>>> honest.
>>>                 I use Mediatomb to serve video and audio from my machines
>>>                 across the network via DNLA. My PS3, other computers and
>>>                 devices can consume that pretty easily. It's all
>>> packaged in
>>>                 Ubuntu but works well on other distros too. The web
>>> interface
>>>                 is also nice. Have a look at - http://mediatomb.cc/
>>>
>>>                 Meanwhile I'm going to check out Ampache and see what it
>>> can
>>>                 do. You might find it's a better solution for what you
>>> want.
>>>                  I'm interested to play with it.
>>>
>>>                 Good luck! Maybe someone else can offer more specific
>>> Ampache
>>>                 advice :)
>>>
>>>                 Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Daniel Hartley<
>>>                 D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Hi Guys,
>>>
>>>                     I've heard a few others mention using media servers
>>> to
>>>                     serve their media throughout the home and across the
>>>                     internet. This is something I would love to figure
>>> out- I
>>>                     finally tried over the past couple of days, using
>>> Ampache.
>>>                     I was wondering if anybody could advise me on
>>> setting it up
>>>                     so it actually works because so far I haven't been
>>> able to
>>>                     access music through any other machine.
>>>
>>>                     Ampache is successfully set up on localhost and
>>> catalogues
>>>                     of music are connected. It will play music via flash
>>> on
>>>                     localhost but I can't seem to make it stream, and
>>> can't
>>>                     figure out the 'localplay' set up, using VLC, etc.
>>>
>>>                     The available support for Ampache seems  quite
>>> fragmented.
>>>                     There is forums and support from independent users
>>> but no
>>>                     real 'manual' for unknowledgeable amateurs like
>>> myself...
>>>                     this is the first time I'm setting up a server
>>> really- I've
>>>                     messed about with servers a little in the past, but
>>> most of
>>>                     it is over my head.
>>>
>>>                     Could anybody give some advice, describe their own
>>>                     experiences, or how else I might be able to
>>> successfully
>>>                     stream/serve music over the internet, to all
>>> machines I
>>>                     have access to, including a mobile (unfortunately an
>>> iPhone
>>>                     at the mo...)???  I'm not really completely sure of
>>> the
>>>                     system I would need to go about making this happen,
>>> and how
>>>                     I could set up Ampache to do that....
>>>
>>>                     Any help really appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>>
>>>                     Regards,
>>>
>>>                     Daniel
>>>
>>>                     -
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