Hi There is the normal meeting tonight at the Great Malvern Hotel, I will be there a little late as I have a meeting at 4.00pm Alan Stranger is bringing his laptop for us to break, erhh...I mean mend. -- Cheers Phil Ironside Creative Spaces 01684-561495 http://creativespaces.co.uk http://malvern.lug.org.uk http://birmingham.pm.org