[Nottingham] Linux Tuition

Simon Huggins nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
Fri Jul 11 09:29:01 2003


On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 08:59:44AM +0100, Robert Davies wrote:
> On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 23:19, Simon Huggins wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:28:13PM +0100, Robert Davies wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 Jul 2003 19:25, Simon Huggins wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 05:39:15PM +0100, Robert Davies wrote:
> > > > > It wasn't Jon who posted the section about 'freeloaders' in IRC
> > Indeed.  Jon however "posted" it "in IRC" as you say above.  Perhaps
> > that wasn't what you meant.

> > Jon said this in a public IRC channel so I didn't feel any problem
> > reproducing it here.
> > > that and the jibes thrown in are poor form.
> > Oh?  I'm sorry I didn't realise I had done that.  Please point me at
> > jibes I've thrown in, in this thread?

Oh so there weren't any jibes then? :-p

> It's not fair to copy stuff from one forum to another,

Perhaps I shouldn't have copied verbatim, though it was said in a public
forum.

If I had said "Having spoken to Jon on IRC, it seems he wants to be paid
for these tutorials..." it would no doubt have come across better.

> it's obvious from the context that IRC is much more informal,

Right...

> and talk about 'freeloaders' wasn't inflammatory, contrary to the guy
> who made the personal comments about Jon, accusing him of flame bait
> on the list.  I don't really care who it was.  

Perhaps the flamebait was aimed at statements such as:
"you live in a twisted little world" "unless your Economics degree gives
you some different insight" "now please refrain from the urge to be
incredibly rude again"
which were all designed to cause me personal offense.

> Fact is Jon has been for many years one of the better technical
> posters here, and has not to my recollection caused issues on the
> list.

Good for Jon.  You seem to think I have an issue with Jon.  I don't
especially.  I don't love the guy, but I have no problem with him whilst
he's being open.

> The whole issue of fees, and reimbursing the ppl putting together the
> training, could have been raised in a way that would keep the thread
> on topic.  Then Jon would undoubdedly speak for himself.

Well, precisely.  My whole point, the whole reason this thread became
what it has become, is because he wasn't upfront with the list in the
first place about wanting to make money from tutorials whilst
solliciting opinion about them.

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