[Nottingham] NottsLUG Website revamp

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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Matt wrote:

> Friday, September 9, 2005, 12:20:08 PM, you wrote:
>
>>> Personally, I have a hairy face and spend too much time in my
>>> local... but there's something about the "penguin with beer" that
>>> screams "Comic Book Guy" to me :)
>
> ME> Yup - and it's a fine stereotype (as far as stereotypes go).
>
> Sure, if you *are* Comic Book Guy.
>
> And you could depict Tux as a pill-popping raver in a jesters hat,
> with a huge joint dangling out of his little penguin mouth... and this
> would seem fine to a sizable section of the population. But it would
> be massively offputting to an even larger section.
>
> I don't care about the logo that much tbh so I should probably butt
> out.. but to me it seems that the stuff about advocacy and
> inclusiveness doesn't really fit with the logo's implication that "We
> are real-ale drinkers". And I'm enough like Comic Book Guy myself that
> I'm unable to resist being pedantic about this.
>
> ME> Message to all: produce something better and we'll use it ;)
>
> Yeh.. that's where my argument stops cos it's beyond me.. so I'll
> shutup :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Matt

Hi Matt,

I don't think I've met you (sorry if I have, and just don't know you by 
name).  Have you been to a meeting lately?  I am a relative newbie and 
just started coming to meetings a couple of months ago.

As a recent "joinee", and IMHO, I don't really think that whether or not 
Tux has a drink in his appendage is really going to make or break whether 
or not someone becomes involved in the LUG.  I think advocacy and 
inclusiveness probably have more to do with the numbers of those who 
actively advocate and incude, rather than anything a potential joinee may 
or may not assume based on the logo...  (Who said Tux's frothing drink is 
alcoholic anyway?  Could be a root beer float, or albino hot chocolate 
with whipped cream on top, or a mug of coffee after you've dropped a block 
of dry ice into it.)

OK, we all know its meant to be ale, but seriously, what Linux user does 
anyone know of who would honestly be put off of joining a list or coming 
to a meeting because he (she!?!) is afraid the someone in the group might 
drink such a beverage?  (...and who is the one being intolerant then?)

Back on the note of advocation and inclusiveness, I have to say that we 
have felt quite included at events so far, regardless of not knowing 
enough to really participate in many of the more tecchy conversations. 
(I couldn't program my way out of a paper bag, for instance...) But hey, 
thats how we learn-- hear about something, then read to find out more. 
After hearing a few of the speakers at meetings and such, I am also happy 
to say that I find the group to be respectful of each other's knowledge 
(or lack thereof ;-) ), which is honestly a breath of fresh air compared 
to a lot of other tecnically oriented groups.

Anyway, Many thanks to those who have made us feel welcome, and those who 
have so kindly even (*gasp*) bought us a drink or two!  ;-)

Cheers,

-Stef