[Nottingham] Nottingham Digest, Vol 322, Issue 3

Wed Dec 9 00:27:37 UTC 2009

Hiya,
First time that I've ever replied to this forum.....
 I have just renewed my t-mobile contract (last Saturday). I did my homework
and finally decided on two phones...it was a split decision. Either the
t-mobile G2(Hero) or the htc touch 2...the G2 won hands down. WHY?
The G2 had a better touch screen, was more user friendly and just seemed
more capable and better to look at. Lol. The G2 (hero) also had won the
mobile phone of the year. The email side seems to be a better experience
(for me anyway) than any of the other windows mobiles that I had used in the
past. Windows mobile is getting rather long in the tooth nowadays...it in my
opinion needs a damn good freshen up and maybe even a rewrite completely. My
G2 I consider to be the best smart phone on the market at the minute....I
don't think the Motorola quite cuts the mustard, but we will see...

Cheers to everyone and I hope to be along to one of your meets soon.....Mark

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Today's Topics:

   1. Android Phones (Rory Holland)
   2. Re: Android Phones (Cat Clarkson)
   3. Re: Android Phones (Rory Holland)
   4. Re: Android Phones (Mike Cardwell)
   5. Re: Android Phones (Cat Clarkson)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:45:04 +0000
From: Rory Holland <modestforagenius at googlemail.com>
Subject: [Nottingham] Android Phones
To: "Notts GNU/Linux Users Group" <nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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I'll soon be in the market for an Android phone.
I'm prepared to wait until one fitting my needs comes out, but are there any
on the market at the moment that have a GPS and compass built in?
Has anyone got an android phone? What one would you recommend?
Or is it worth waiting for the next "big thing", (HTC Hero +1?)

-- 
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr.
Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers
come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas
that could provoke such a question."
-- Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:48:09 +0000
From: Cat Clarkson <envengcat at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Android Phones
To: "Notts GNU/Linux Users Group" <nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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i've got an HTC Hero - love. it. to. death.

Motorola Droid comes out this week or so - meant to be pretty good - has a
huge screen and the advantage of a slip out keyboard thingy.

Hero has compass and gps built in - negative points about HTC - they're a
bit funny about their updates because of SenseUI - they're skipping android
1.6 and 2.0 (?) and going for a 2.1 (i think?) update which is a tiny winsy
bit annoying.

Build quality is great.

Outlook email and calendar integration on HTC hero is fantastic - however I
think it's an HTC thing not an android thing, although potentially newer
android versions may have great support too - i don't know a huge amount
about that.

If you ever want to have a little fiddle and play with a hero feel free to
drop me a line off list and if you're around uni a bit you can give it a go.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Rory Holland <
modestforagenius at googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'll soon be in the market for an Android phone.
> I'm prepared to wait until one fitting my needs comes out, but are there
> any on the market at the moment that have a GPS and compass built in?
> Has anyone got an android phone? What one would you recommend?
> Or is it worth waiting for the next "big thing", (HTC Hero +1?)
>
> --
> "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray,
Mr.
> Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers
> come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of
ideas
> that could provoke such a question."
> -- Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:51:53 +0000
From: Rory Holland <modestforagenius at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Android Phones
To: "Notts GNU/Linux Users Group" <nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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I'm reading about HTCs 2010 release, and might wait around for this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/htc-bravo-pictured-more-lucidly/
Newer versions of Android will almost certainly feature better Outlook
integration, especially now microsoft have opened their PST format for
direct access without proprietary APIs.

2009/12/8 Cat Clarkson <envengcat at googlemail.com>

> i've got an HTC Hero - love. it. to. death.
>
> Motorola Droid comes out this week or so - meant to be pretty good - has a
> huge screen and the advantage of a slip out keyboard thingy.
>
> Hero has compass and gps built in - negative points about HTC - they're a
> bit funny about their updates because of SenseUI - they're skipping
android
> 1.6 and 2.0 (?) and going for a 2.1 (i think?) update which is a tiny
winsy
> bit annoying.
>
> Build quality is great.
>
> Outlook email and calendar integration on HTC hero is fantastic - however
I
> think it's an HTC thing not an android thing, although potentially newer
> android versions may have great support too - i don't know a huge amount
> about that.
>
> If you ever want to have a little fiddle and play with a hero feel free to
> drop me a line off list and if you're around uni a bit you can give it a
go.
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Rory Holland <
> modestforagenius at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll soon be in the market for an Android phone.
>> I'm prepared to wait until one fitting my needs comes out, but are there
>> any on the market at the moment that have a GPS and compass built in?
>> Has anyone got an android phone? What one would you recommend?
>> Or is it worth waiting for the next "big thing", (HTC Hero +1?)
>>
>> --
>> "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray,
>> Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
>> answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of
confusion
>> of ideas that could provoke such a question."
>> -- Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
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Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers
come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas
that could provoke such a question."
-- Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:59:46 +0000
From: Mike Cardwell <nlug at lists.grepular.com>
Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Android Phones
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Rory Holland wrote:

> I'm reading about HTCs 2010 release, and might wait around for this: 
> http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/htc-bravo-pictured-more-lucidly/
> Newer versions of Android will almost certainly feature better Outlook 
> integration, especially now microsoft have opened their PST format for 
> direct access without proprietary APIs.

I have a G1. I'm not sure why you're making that claim re Outlook 
integration. Android hasn't shown any promise as a usable mobile email 
client yet. The worse thing about Android is the email application. It's 
absolutely terrible. Extremely slow, clunky and severely lacking in 
anything other than the basic feature set. Mobile Outlook is far 
superior, as is the email client which came with my Symbian based Nokia 
E90, and the iPhone mail client too. I've had to install a third party 
client called K-9. It's not brilliant, but it's far superior to the 
standard mail client that comes with Android.

Other than that, everything else about the phone is superb.

-- 
Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant and LAMP developer
Cardwell IT Ltd. (UK Reg'd Company #06920226) http://cardwellit.com/
Technical Blog: https://secure.grepular.com/blog/

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:17:28 +0000
From: Cat Clarkson <envengcat at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Android Phones
To: "Notts GNU/Linux Users Group" <nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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I think what I said was a little unclear, not sure, but the outlook
integration with HTCs outlook app is almost flawless.  The only single
strange thing it does is when I accept a meeting request on the
calendar/outlook thing its auto reply says en**** (my username!) has
accepted, rather than my name.  Not really too much of an issue and I'm sure
it's fixable, but I'm lazy.

If you get an HTC release it will have the same (or better) outlook apps as
the hero - whatever version of android it runs.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Mike Cardwell
<nlug at lists.grepular.com>wrote:

> Rory Holland wrote:
>
> > I'm reading about HTCs 2010 release, and might wait around for this:
> > http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/htc-bravo-pictured-more-lucidly/
> > Newer versions of Android will almost certainly feature better Outlook
> > integration, especially now microsoft have opened their PST format for
> > direct access without proprietary APIs.
>
> I have a G1. I'm not sure why you're making that claim re Outlook
> integration. Android hasn't shown any promise as a usable mobile email
> client yet. The worse thing about Android is the email application. It's
> absolutely terrible. Extremely slow, clunky and severely lacking in
> anything other than the basic feature set. Mobile Outlook is far
> superior, as is the email client which came with my Symbian based Nokia
> E90, and the iPhone mail client too. I've had to install a third party
> client called K-9. It's not brilliant, but it's far superior to the
> standard mail client that comes with Android.
>
> Other than that, everything else about the phone is superb.
>
> --
> Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant and LAMP developer
> Cardwell IT Ltd. (UK Reg'd Company #06920226) http://cardwellit.com/
> Technical Blog: https://secure.grepular.com/blog/
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