[Nottingham] gpgpwd - keeping a commandline passwords list

david at gbenet.com david at gbenet.com
Thu Jun 21 09:28:15 UTC 2012


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On 21/06/12 09:32, Mike Cardwell wrote:
> On 21/06/12 06:51, Paul Tew wrote:
> 
>> Indeed, I know of two cases where the CPS didn't accept the 'I
>> forgot it' defence and successfully prosecuted the people
>> concerned. One got 6 months jail sentence and the other got 2
>> years. The cases are Nottinghamshire cases and subject to public
>> record.
> 
> I'm not familiar with these cases, but maybe they made the correct
> choice by not revealing their passwords and taking the small jail
> sentence. Perhaps they would have been in a lot more trouble if they'd
> given up access? This is what encryption gives you, choice. If you
> don't encrypt, you don't get to choose.
> 
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I would have thought that not giving up your passphrase was a "contempt of court." They -
the court usually give you a short sentence - then bring you back to the court and ask you
again.

A two year sentence straight off seems to me to be a bit excessive - a judge can either fine
you - but he can't keep sending you back to jail. On a positive note: without your
passphrase the "authorities" can not "crack" the encrypted data. So - far from being in a
strong position - there is no real strength in threats of a jail sentence - you can sit it
out and wait - the "authorities" are in a very weak position - they find it impossible to
decrypt your data. That gives us strength.

In the 70's MI6 used to take you down to Aldershot - where they would roll you up in a
blanket and bit the shit out of you - then leave the lights on 24 x 7 and then water-board
you. They would then march you about jammed between to big army guys to interrogate you. I
think a week of that then you will give up your passphrase :)

By and large MI6 is filled with university graduates - but it's the army bods you have to
worry about - middle-class values do not apply!!

David

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