[Nottingham] systemd now puts "mount" into the magical "PID 1"

Neal Ponton neal at tutamail.com
Tue Aug 23 11:03:28 UTC 2016


I don't think I've managed to create a 'simple' systemd unit yet without it coming up as having problems when running 'systemctl status'. 
I've tended to get round it with leaving systemd units alone and creative use of cron. 
Someone ought to write a command line based systemd unit creation tool to automate and parse custom units. I've even had units fail that are just pointing to a bash script in /opt 
Neal. 


23. Aug 2016 11:47 by nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk:


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> Folks,
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> Where will this end?...
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> Note that in Linux, the "init" process "PID 1" is very 'special'...[*]
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> The latest for systemd is that the filesystem command "mount" is now
> consumed into the systemd "PID 1" 'expansion'.
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> What could possibly go wrong?...
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> I for one do not believe for what I read as unbelievable gloss. What
> is the 'sandboxing' in "PID 1"?... Or has systemd moved out of the
> super-special "PID 1" state for all systems?
>
> To my view, this is all rather reminiscent of the MCP[+] in the 1980's
> film, TRON...
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>
> For a good giggle The Register style, see:
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> Systemd adds filesystem mount tool
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/22/systemd_adds_filesystem_mount_tool
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> Note the first few comments there. Very apt!
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>
> What is the OS world coming to?!
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> All good fun for our next NLUG meet! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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>
> *: For various views of systemd:
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> http://xkcd.com/743
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>
> Systemd – What You Need to Know
> https://www.maketecheasier.com/systemd-what-you-need-to-know-linux
>
> - - There is indeed a LOT of controversy...
>
>
> What's wrong with systemd?
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3u2ahq/whats_wrong_with_systemd
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>
> Comments on EWONTFIX: Broken by design: systemd
> (Error - Won't fix)
> https://tim.siosm.fr/blog/2014/02/10/ewontfix-ecouldfix-systemd
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> *The main issue here is that as systemd is PID 1, if it crashes* , the
> system goes down. Before discussing how systemd could work as a non
> PID 1 process, let’s review its duties...
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>
>
> (Slackware, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS, and Chrome OS, haven't adopted systemd.)
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> ((Full disclosure: I run non-systemd systems! And not necessarily only
> those currently listed :-P ))
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>
> +:
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> TRON: Master Control Program
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tron_characters#Master_Control_Program
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