russellh at ysmail.net
russellh at ysmail.net
Mon Feb 12 12:53:11 GMT 2007
i've looked at a similar requirement for our own office recently... And chose Scalix over kolab. If you have under 25 users then the community edition is ideal. Worth a look.
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From: "Jon Spriggs" <jon at spriggs.org.uk>
Subj: Re: [Phpwm] Horde
Date: Mon 12 Feb 2007 10:28
To: "West Midlands PHP User Group" <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
On 2/12/07, Michael Sheldon <mike at mikeasoft.com> wrote:
> Ah, I've seen your recent mailings. What I don't understand (and
> seemingly neither does anyone else on the Horde list) is why you
> can't use Kronolith's existing iCal facility for this. Outlook
> supports the iCal protocol so you can open Kronolith calendars in
> Outlook without any trouble.
LOL, and so it goes around again :) After the initial rejection of the
enhancement bug I submitted, where Jan told me about the iCal
functions, I tried to use iCal, and while it seems like it will do a
one-off import of calendar items, it doesn't appear to dynamically
update the calendar, whereas the Sharepoint/Outlook SOAP calls make it
appear like you have a live tie-in to the calendar, so when you change
the Sharepoint side, the Outlook updates automatically (within a
couple of seconds IIRC)... but I can't see how you do that with
I felt like I was going around in circles explaining it on the list,
but maybe it was just me!
To see what I mean, If you have access to MS Outlook, I've got a
"demo" sharepoint server up-and-running at
At the home page, click on Events and then "Link to Calendar" which
offers a URI which MSOutlook accepts. This then tells outlook where to
send the SOAP requests for the calendar updates.
Don't worry about experimenting with the sharepoint - I set it up
specifically to demo to people on the Kronolith list, and obviously,
if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
> I don't have a whole lot of experience with that side of things
> however, as here we use Kolab (basically all Calendar entries,
> tasks, notes, etc. are just emails containing XML which then get
> processed by Horde's Kolab driver, or Kontact's Kolab plugin, or
> the KONSEC Konnektor for Outlook depending on the client).
So, what is Kolab? From what I've seen, is it like MS Exchange,
without a users web frontend?
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 09:20:19AM +0000, Jon Spriggs wrote:
> > Hi there Michael,
> > Thanks for the offer! I've been struggling a little on the Kronolith
> > d-list last week because I want to expose a series of SOAP calls in
> > the same way the Sharepoint does, because sharepoint allows you to
> > open the calendar in Oulook, and have it dynamically update the screen
> > - which is a sticking point on adoption for my team, who are fairly
> > ambivalent about the solution, but prefer sharepoint for the sole fact
> > that you can open the calendar in Outlook ... grrr...
> > Anyway, it's good to know someone else is using it :)
> > I might drop you a line some time in the future...
> > Regards,
> > Jon
> > On 2/10/07, Michael Sheldon <mike at mikeasoft.com> wrote:
> > >Hi Jon,
> > >
> > > I work with Horde a lot at work, we're using it in a lot of groupware
> > >installations for various parts of the German government, along with the
> > >Kolab groupware system. Horde itself is pretty nice, the Kolab driver
> > >still needs some work though (we had to make some pretty big
> > >modifications to get it working with reasonable performance).
> > >
> > > If you have any Horde questions feel free to ask me, I'm pretty familiar
> > >with the codebase now.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Mike.
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