Symfony related angst Yesterday: http://redotheweb.com/2008/07/10/symfony-11-a-smart-move/ Today: http://redotheweb.com/2008/07/11/sorry-to-disappoint-you/ Regards -- Darren Beale Siftware 1 North Works London Lane Upton-upon-Severn WR8 0HH t: 01684 59 49 59 m: 07711 716 197 w: http://siftware.co.uk b: http://bealers.com