[Phpwm] too much M$ bashing

Alex Mace alex at hollytree.co.uk
Fri Mar 6 13:32:31 UTC 2009


Is this part of the embrace, extend, extinguish strategy?

On 6 Mar 2009, at 13:31, Andy Cowan wrote:

> Anyway - I thought the point was that we should turn up in our  
> various t-shirts and have a big hug. We're trying to be cross- 
> platform!
>
> A.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-
>> bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mike Tipping
>> Sent: 06 March 2009 13:24
>> To: West Midlands PHP User Group
>> Subject: Re: [Phpwm] too much M$ bashing
>>
>> So next Tuesday shall we all turn up either wearing a Windows or a
>> Linux
>> T-Shirt and have a big fight.
>>
>> Get it all sorted out once and for all.
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/09 12:36, "BinaryKitten" <atolade at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I gather, rather than hijacking PHP they are more
>> interested
>>> in making a php binary that will work the best it can on the Windows
>>> Platform. From our (the developers) side this should mean that PHP
>> will
>>> work better than before on the windows platform. That being said, it
>>> doesn't stop some of the "improvements" to the PHP Binary being
>>> transposed into the other platform versions.
>>>
>>> I apologise if I missed the point, I only got J 's mail in the  
>>> thread
>>> and replied to that.
>>>
>>> Kat
>>>
>>> Andy Cowan wrote:
>>>> You seem to misunderstand the point I'm making - I want PHP to
>> continue to be
>>>> usable *cross platform* - i.e. I can deploy on whatever server OS I
>> choose
>>>> for a project - Windows, Linux, or OS X, whatever suits the project
>> and the
>>>> client. I don't want to be forced to to write code that is specific
>> to a
>>>> particular vendor's flavour of PHP and then be stuck with their
>> server
>>>> platform.
>>>>
>>>> The thread is about M$ making it more difficult for us to keep a
>> choice of
>>>> platforms, not bashing M$ for developing a rubbish web server. I  
>>>> for
>> one am
>>>> concerned that they are trying to hijack PHP to try and force me to
>> buy their
>>>> servers.
>>>>
>>>> And while we're at it, without trying to start a religious war, the
>> goalposts
>>>> in our space (i.e. web servers, scripting languages, web databases,
>> server
>>>> operating systems) weren't set by M$ or Apple. They were set by
>> BSDi, FreeBSD
>>>> and later Linux. Apache, PHP and MySQL. M$ were late to the party,
>> and when
>>>> they arrived, they only brought cheap lager when everyone else had
>> brought
>>>> champagne. They're catching up now, which is good - as long as they
>> don't end
>>>> up dictating how we write code and where we can deploy it.
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>
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