[Phpwm] hyperphp

[Richard Cunningham]

I don't think they are trying to scale PHP as such, they are trying to 
use less hardware so the costs are lower. Facebook's goals seem to be to 
reduce costs in general, like they did with the memcache binary protocol 
[reducing CPU load] and Cassandra [replacing netapp], because they don't 
bring that much in really (about $2 per user per year I think).

Also if the interview is real and I think it is, it's a bit old because 
the quoted Facebook user numbers are only 220 million and they are 350 
million now. Therefore HyperPHP is either late or they haven't announced 
it (I assume they will open source it).

David Caunt wrote:
> I'd expect a compiled application to be faster than an opcode cache 
> (which is intermediate) but I have doubts about the existence of 
> hyperphp. That said, Facebook have contributed to memcache and other 
> open source projects in the past. Given that most of Facebook is 
> cached, it seems unlikely that they would try to optimise a language. 
> Languages don't scale!
>
> Dave
>
> 2010/1/12 Stephen Orr <steve at stephenorr.co.uk 
> <mailto:steve at stephenorr.co.uk>>
>
>     I would agree with you there, and it would produce similar
>     performance gains. I suspect the interview was either faked, or
>     that the employee was misadvised as to what the project was about
>     - and most companies come up with clever names for internal
>     projects... David will know exactly what I mean if I say the
>     phrase "NewNet"...
>
>     Thanks
>     Steve
>
>     2010/1/12 David Goodwin <david at codepoets.co.uk
>     <mailto:david at codepoets.co.uk>>
>
>         j michaelson wrote:
>         >
>         http://therumpus.net/2010/01/conversations-about-the-internet-5-anonymous-facebook-employee/?full=yes
>         >
>         > An interview with a facebook employee. The guy mentions that
>         someone
>         > there is making hyperphp, which is a compiled language
>         instead of
>         > scripted. (mentioned about half way down the page).
>         >
>
>         I don't know whether that interview is fake or real... doesn't
>         APC (and
>         other op-code caches) make the point of 'hyperphp' (compiled
>         'php')
>         redundant?
>
>         Perhaps I'm missing something.
>
>         David.
>         --
>         David Goodwin
>
>         [ david at codepoets dot co dot uk ]
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