[Preston] Preston Digest, Vol 222, Issue 3

Wed Jul 13 10:33:25 UTC 2016

We used to have an inflatable penguin that we took to the pub with us (in
fact I still have it somewhere) not that I'm suggesting that for Costa!

I won't be able to make it, this Saturday is a little short notice and
weekends are always busy but I'll be interested to hear what is proposed
and would come along if a little more notice were given.

Regards,

Phil Robinson

On 12 July 2016 at 21:49, nick holme via Preston <preston at mailman.lug.org.uk
> wrote:

> Hi all, this saturday is good for me. I'll be dropping the wife off at
> work just before 2, so 2 o'clock is a good time. How will we know one
> another?
>
> Nick
>
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>   1. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (B McLellan)
>   2. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Mark Walton)
>   3. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Daryl Knight)
>   4. Re: A LUG needs a purpose (Ken Walker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:53:53 +0100
> From: B McLellan <bob.mclellan at gmail.com>
> To: Preston and Lancashire Linux User Group
>     <preston at mailman.lug.org.uk>, Ken Walker <keneawalker at gmail.com>
> Cc: markwalton1967 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
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> Its a while since I've had any involvement with the education sector but if
> you are looking to get involved with schools I suspect coding would be the
> way to go. The old IT curriculum was basically an MS Office course which
> added to the MS lock in. I believe there are now some programming elements
> with python one of the preferred languages. Old school IT teachers with
> little programming experience would probably welcome assistance and a few
> Raspberry Pi/Micro bits would be the only hardware required.
> Just my 2p
>
> ;)
> On 12 Jul 2016 10:37 a.m., "Ken Walker via Preston" <
> preston at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark.
> >
> > I was wondering whether this group was still alive as it has appeared to
> > be gone and forgotten. I was a member of the Lancaster lug but that seems
> > to have gone quiet now. My plan there was to start a project but no idea
> on
> > what to do. This would have given people don't practical skills  in
> > learning how to code or for some of us reminding us how to to code. Any
> > purpose is good though so I'm up for anything like you're suggesting.
> >
> > If you get something arranged I'll try and make it.
> > On 11 Jul 2016 21:10, "Mark Walton via Preston" <
> > preston at mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> I've spent some of the recent rainy weekends putting together an LTSP
> >> server based on Linux Mint with XFCE.
> >> I got there by starting with Edubuntu 14.04, then my own build on Ubuntu
> >> 16.04 and finally working through the forums to get Mint 17.3 to build.
> >>
> >> Now it's up and running it's ridiculously easy to host thin clients (old
> >> Gigabyte Brix) from my equally old netbook. loaded with all the common
> >> educational applications this would run any Primary school classroom for
> >> KS2 and KS3.
> >>
> >> Since it was an educational distro that got me going on this I began to
> >> wonder why the LUGs do not reach out to the local schools and offer
> their
> >> help in establishing Linux as a viable classroom alternative; given that
> >> distros like Mint are now so new-user friendly. It can only be lack of
> >> exposure to Linux and fear of the unknown that holds back Linux in the
> >> Edtech sector.
> >>
> >> This thought itself was a reflection on the time I spent briefly keeping
> >> in touch with the Blackpool LUG last year, until they moved to their new
> >> premises; they found a purpose in "makerspace" and all things kinetic
> >> connected to Raspberry Pi's along with 3D Printers etc. This has not
> only
> >> held their LUG together, but extended their appeal by giving the group a
> >> puropse, rather than all sitting around with old laptops and playing
> with
> >> the latest distro release's which was becoming a little stale.
> >>
> >> Which gets me to the real point of my note...would anyone on this
> mailing
> >> list like to refresh the Preston LUG, have a get-together, and maybe
> >> discuss such options as working with the schools, or any other ideas
> that
> >> would give us a "raison d'etre" to overcome this dormant state?
> >>
> >> Come on, I know you're out there...you keep buying all the Linux
> >> Voice/User mags before I can get to them in Morrisons or Sainsbury's :)
> >>
> >> Mark Walton
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100
> From: Mark Walton <markwalton1967 at aol.com>
> To: B McLellan <bob.mclellan at gmail.com>, Preston and Lancashire Linux
>     User Group <preston at mailman.lug.org.uk>, Ken Walker
>     <keneawalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
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> Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,
> Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on
> the old mailing list.
> All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in
> Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this
> presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by the
> LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but
> having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or
> the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully avoid.
> I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and
> possibly Squeek or Turtle.
>
> It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.
>
> If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in
> Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that be
> possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the
> majority?
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my ASUS
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 20:46:01 +0100
> From: Daryl Knight <cyberdot153 at hotmail.com>
> To: PLUG Preston Linux Users Group <preston at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
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> Hi Ken,
> The date and venue are fine for me... but a 3 hour window is a bit vague
> (guess I like precision a tad too much).If someone could let me know what
> time they'd be arriving then I'll pop along at the same time, to avoid
> sitting for up to 2-3 hours waiting for people.
> - Daryl
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100
> To: bob.mclellan at gmail.com; preston at mailman.lug.org.uk;
> keneawalker at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
> From: preston at mailman.lug.org.uk
>
> Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,
> Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on
> the old mailing list.
> All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in
> Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this
> presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by the
> LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but
> having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or
> the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully avoid.
> I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and
> possibly Squeek or Turtle.
>
> It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.
>
> If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in
> Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that be
> possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the
> majority?
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my ASUS
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:24:15 +0100
> From: Ken Walker <keneawalker at gmail.com>
> To: Daryl Knight <cyberdot153 at hotmail.com>,  Preston and Lancashire
>     Linux User Group <preston at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
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> Sorry mate Saturdays not good for me as I'll be at grasshoppers at the beer
> festival followed by my mates wedding.
> On 12 Jul 2016 20:46, "Daryl Knight via Preston" <
> preston at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > The date and venue are fine for me... but a 3 hour window is a bit vague
> > (guess I like precision a tad too much).
> > If someone could let me know what time they'd be arriving then I'll pop
> > along at the same time, to avoid sitting for up to 2-3 hours waiting for
> > people.
> >
> > - Daryl
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 19:19:15 +0100
> > To: bob.mclellan at gmail.com; preston at mailman.lug.org.uk;
> > keneawalker at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Preston] A LUG needs a purpose
> > From: preston at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >
> > Bob, Ken, Daryl, Nick and Olly,
> > Thanks for the responses, its good to see that there is life out there on
> > the old mailing list.
> > All your points are valid and very topical. Im especially interested in
> > Nicks views from inside the edtech sector and the opportunity this
> > presents. There could be a very beneficial relationship to be forged by
> the
> > LUGs with the schools now having more direct control over their IT, but
> > having limited insight into alternatives beyond MS, Apple and Google; or
> > the downsides to these options that the marketing materials tactfully
> avoid.
> > I also had a thought about coding, but using Sonic-pi, Scratch and
> > possibly Squeek or Turtle.
> >
> > It feels like there may be some interest in a meet up.
> >
> > If I suggested somewhere like Cafe Nero opposite the train station in
> > Preston on Saturday afternoon, dropping in/out say 2pm to 5pm would that
> be
> > possible for anyone, or would an alternate date/venue be easier for the
> > majority?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Sent from my ASUS
> > _______________________________________________ Preston mailing list
> > Preston at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/preston
> >
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