[sclug] Weapon of choice

Smiles, Mark Mark msmiles at agere.com
Wed Nov 26 21:54:19 UTC 2003

It's an even bigger pain when you scale this to hundreds of systems.
I'm looking into Red Hat's Enterprise management server with satellite &
proxy servers to automate patch delivery. I will also look at Ximian Red
Carpet (Now Novell's). As well as patches, isv software can also be
distributed but these all have to be in rpm format.  I would like to
consider rpm delivery for Solaris patches and ISV software( in rpm
Any one have any experience with Solaris software and patches in rpm

Mark Smiles
P.s Uzi 9 mm

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Franklin [mailto:r.c.franklin at reading.ac.uk] 
Sent: 26 November 2003 21:46
To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [sclug] Weapon of choice

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Roland Turner wrote:

> What was your [Debian] pain?

The package management was a pain in the backside - not the maintenance
once the system was installed (I tend to do little with that) but just
getting the thing installed in the first place - you'd pick something
it wouldn't resolve the dependancies for you; just adding one package
would be a merry-go-round of chasing dependancies and fixing clashes
before things would install.

Also, I believe it used SysV init in the days when few other people were
(I was using Slackware at that time) so that was also painful at the
I was less experienced in other UNIXes back then (1996) so I wasn't
prepared for the differences.

If it just goes on and runs solidly, it could be fine for me; I don't
want something which treats me like a moron but I don't want something
that works and doesn't require lots of jiggery pokery to get running.
It's difficult striking a balance between flexibility and control and

What do they do regarding patches and updates?  If I put the current
Debian on, how long can I expect security updates to be available which
can just drop on and won't interfere with what's already there?

I don't mind trying anything out - I give everything a few days to
me on my desktop machine.  Upgrading my server will be a meaty operation
and I want to make the right choice.

  - Bob

 Bob Franklin <r.c.franklin at reading.ac.uk>          +44 (0)118 378 7147
 Systems and Communications, IT Services, The University of Reading, UK
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