[sclug] Re: sclug digest, Vol 1 #133 - 8 msgs
Neil Haughton
n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com
Sat Oct 25 09:05:41 UTC 2003
[1] Not entirely surprising. The number of people willing to pay grossly
over the odds for utter tat on ebay never ceases to amaze me. Next
time I'm a bit short of cash I might try selling some used sellotape
and a few dried-up ballpoints.
You've some dried up ballpoints for sale? I've been looking for one of
those for yonks!! Name your price! :-)
Neil Haughton
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Eclipse IDE - problem solved (Tim Sutton)
> 2. Re: Latex puzzlement (Stewart Adcock)
> 3. Re: Eclipse IDE (Will Dickson)
> 4. DVD writers (Derek M Jones)
> 5. Re: DVD writers (Tim Sutton)
> 6. Re: DVD writers (James Fidell)
> 7. Re: Computer auctions (Tom Dawes-Gamble)
> 8. Re: DVD writers (Chirstopher West)
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> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] Eclipse IDE - problem solved
> From:
> Tim Sutton <t.sutton at reading.ac.uk>
> Date:
> Thu, 22 May 2003 13:39:49 +0100
> To:
> sclug at sclug.org.uk
>
>
>Hi
>
>I fixed the problem - I found some old xerces jars in my classpath that were
>obviously making eclipse unhappy :-(
>
>Cheers
>
>Tim
>
>On Wednesday 21 May 2003 9:34 pm, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Well all the mailing lists on the eclipse site seem to be for developers of
>>the eclipse ide rather than using the eclipse id. I downloaded eclipse and
>>tried to install in on my mdk 9.1 box. I get an error during first load
>>complaining about xerces (sorry I am at home now & dont have the specific
>>error to hand). I just wondered if anyone has had similar problems and how
>>they got around it? I tried installing the latest xerces libs bu still no
>>go.
>>
>>On a more general note, what is your opinion of eclipse? How does it
>>compare to JBuilder8?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>On Wednesday 21 May 2003 9:03 pm, Will Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tim Sutton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi there
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone installed the Eclipse IDE on linux? Looking for a few
>>>>pointers with the installation and where to find an appropriate Eclipse
>>>>users mailiing list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I've got Eclipse for win32 (yeah, yeah, I know :-); since much of it's
>>>in Java I'd expect them to be reasonably similar. Is your problem
>>>something specific?
>>>
>>>For mailing lists etc, www.eclipse.org seems to be the official site.
>>>
>>>Will.
>>>
>>>
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> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] Latex puzzlement
> From:
> Stewart Adcock <adcock at mccammon.ucsd.edu>
> Date:
> Wed, 21 May 2003 13:26:55 -0700
> To:
> t.sutton at reading.ac.uk
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Try putting the \label within the \caption section.
>
> i.e.:
>
> \begin{table}[h]
> \label{tblParamete}
> \hline
> Hello world
> \caption{Hello world.
> \label{tblParamete}
> }
> \end{table}
>
> Stewart.
>
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>
> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] Eclipse IDE
> From:
> Will Dickson <wrd at glaurung.demon.co.uk>
> Date:
> Thu, 22 May 2003 22:38:50 +0100
> To:
> sclug at sclug.org.uk
>
>
> Tim Sutton wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> On a more general note, what is your opinion of eclipse? How does it
>> compare to JBuilder8?
>>
> Well, for a start, I see about 999 excellent reasons (U.S.) to prefer
> Eclipse! (The gratis version of JB can't be used to develop commercial
> code.)
>
> I haven't used JB since version 3; I changed over to Forte when JB3
> got broken by Java1.4, and tried Eclipse shortly afterwards when an
> upgrade to Forte went horribly wrong and left me with an unusable
> install.
>
> I like it (it's my primary work IDE), not least because there seems to
> be a lot less of it. Forte was huge, and spent half an hour loading
> extensions for everything under the sun, none of which I used, and had
> a seriously cluttered UI. Eclipse does what I need, it's clean, it's
> quick (since it doesn't use Swing), and its dependency and build
> management is a lot better than Forte's. (Forte tended to miss subtle
> dependencies).
>
>
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>
> Subject:
> [sclug] DVD writers
> From:
> Derek M Jones <derek at knosof.co.uk>
> Date:
> Thu, 22 May 2003 23:20:55 +0100
> To:
> sclug at sclug.org.uk
>
>
>All,
>
>I see that the July issue of PCW have a review of DVD writers.
>
>Does anybody have any tips on which vendors not to avoid, ie
>they don't have Linux driver support?
>
>derek
>
>--
>Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667
>Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:derek at knosof.co.uk
>Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk
>
>
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] DVD writers
> From:
> Tim Sutton <suttont at onetel.net.uk>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 May 2003 01:15:59 +0100
> To:
> Derek M Jones <derek at knosof.co.uk>
>
>
>Hi
>
>Cant directly help with your question, but someone on the WiltsLUG mentioned
>that PC World are selling DVD writers for around 99 squid - which he seemed
>to think was about ?50 better than you can find them anywhere else.
>
>Regards
>
>Tim
>
>On Thursday 22 May 2003 11:20 pm, Derek M Jones wrote:
>
>
>>All,
>>
>>I see that the July issue of PCW have a review of DVD writers.
>>
>>Does anybody have any tips on which vendors not to avoid, ie
>>they don't have Linux driver support?
>>
>>derek
>>
>>--
>>Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252
>>520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd
>>mailto:derek at knosof.co.uk Applications Standards Conformance Testing
>>http://www.knosof.co.uk
>>
>>
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> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] DVD writers
> From:
> James Fidell <james at cloud9.co.uk>
> Date:
> Fri, 23 May 2003 01:20:20 +0100
> To:
> sclug at sclug.org.uk
>
>
>Quoting Derek M Jones (derek at knosof.co.uk):
>
>
>>All,
>>
>>I see that the July issue of PCW have a review of DVD writers.
>>
>>Does anybody have any tips on which vendors not to avoid, ie
>>they don't have Linux driver support?
>>
>>
>
>The DVD writer of choice is allegedly the Sony DRU500A. I've not been
>able to find one for sale anywhere for the last few months though, and
>last time I looked at ebay they were going for more than retail[1].
>
>James
>
>[1] Not entirely surprising. The number of people willing to pay grossly
> over the odds for utter tat on ebay never ceases to amaze me. Next
> time I'm a bit short of cash I might try selling some used sellotape
> and a few dried-up ballpoints.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] Computer auctions
> From:
> Tom Dawes-Gamble <tmdg at tmdg.co.uk>
> Date:
> 23 May 2003 07:34:08 +0000
> To:
> sclug at sclug.org.uk
>
>
>I've bought quite a bit of kit over the past year. IMHO the trick is
>to wait and see. For the Rivermead auction I get the list in the post
>(Regular Customer :-). I browse though it and see what I might be
>interested in. Then on the morning get there at 9ish for the one hour
>preview. Decide if the items look any good. You can get the systems
>powered on if you want. Then note down the price to bid too. At
>Rivermead you have to add VAT and 10% buys fee. So you pay a fair bit
>more than the bid price.
>
>I bought a couple of Compaq PII at 7 quid each. The previous month they
>were going for 20 quid. I seen them go for 20 quid since too. The
>price for item can vary greatly on the day too. I'm not sure prices
>drop as the auction goes on and people leave.
>
>On one occasion there were a number of nice PIII systems I'd put a bid
>price of 100 on them and only wanted one. I think only one other person
>was bidding on them and they all went for more than my max bid. My
>guess is if he had let me have one for 80 quid he would have got the
>rest for 80 quid too. :-)
>
>TOm.
>
>
>On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 17:41, Neil Haughton wrote:
>
>
>>Leon Ward wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Never been to one myself, does anyone have a sample auction list from one
>>>that "went down" in recent months?
>>>Would like to see the type of bargains (if any) are available.
>>>
>>>- Nard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>It's ex-corporate office stuff mainly, 3 year old accounting write-offs
>>and that sort of thing, so you'll find lots of monitors (mostly 17" but
>>some larger ones too), boxes (266MHz PII's and so on), laptops, HP laser
>>printers, scanners, keyboards. Mostly clean and in pretty good nick too.
>>
>>Best bet is to go to one (entrance charge is minimal and gets you a
>>catalogue) and see for yourself. Staff are pretty helpful and will even
>>give you an off-the-record idea of guide prices beforehand, if you ask.
>>At worst you'll waste a Saturday morning.
>>
>>Neil Haughton
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Neil Haughton [mailto:n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com]
>>>>Sent: 20 May 2003 21:14
>>>>To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
>>>>Subject: [sclug] Computer auctions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 19 May 2003 18:09:46 +0100
>>>>>Neil Haughton <n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Those auctions are really worth while (don't spread it around!),
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Where do you hear about them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I 'heard' of them by spotting a notice outside Rivermead
>>>>(where they are
>>>>held locally). Usually a Sat or Sun morning every couple of
>>>>months. Once
>>>>you have been to your first one and registered they will post you a
>>>>catalogue a couple of weeks before each subsequent auction.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately I had to cap my IT spend for the rest of this year
>>>>(married, you see), so no longer have the last catalogue that
>>>>I received :-)
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Neil Haughton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [sclug] DVD writers
>> From:
>> "Chirstopher West" <chriz_w at hotmail.com>
>> Date:
>> Fri, 23 May 2003 10:51:27 +0100
>> To:
>> derek at knosof.co.uk
>>
>>
>> Well if i where looking to invest money in a dvd writer then i would
>> hold of for a bit because there are a few developments in the
>> process. There is the introduction of blue laser technology that
>> should be coming out some time in the near future which will allow
>> you to cram even more on to a DVD and there's the problem with the
>> standard type of encoding for DVD like the old VHS verses Betermax
>> fight.
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