[sclug] Content Management Systems (again)

[pieter claassen]

Zope is a bit of a bastard to get going because unfortunately there are
so many ways of doing things in Zope and most product developers seem to
try them all at one time or the other. The fact that any product can be
made up of code in many different subsystems (python on disk, dtml in
zodb, python in zodb, templates in zodb or on disk......) makes it
difficult if not impossible to follow other developer's working.

I agree with you that the content management system in Zope is difficult
to get to grips with (I have failed). However, keep in mind that Zope's
ZMI is already a type of content management system so it is relatively
trivial to implement your own management interface in DTML.

I have looked hard and far and have stuck to Zope for the following
reasons:
1. Version control
2. Upgradeability
3. Relatively secure framework (authorisation and authentication already
sorted out)
4. Not many vulnerabilities compared to other stuff.

If you find something else, please let me know.

Since you are looking how about:
1. Web mail interface.
2. online address book and calendar app.
3. Online discussion board.

I have heard that microsoft and IBM have this space covered;-(

Pieter

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 19:26, Antony Bartlett wrote:
> Last time I posted here about Content Management Systems I'd decided to 
> look into what Zope could do for me.  Having done a bit of this, and 
> despite being duly impressed by much that I've seen, I have decided that 
> Zope is not for me.  It seemed that every time I tried to anything 
> non-trivial, I got unpredictable results, including something (I've no 
> idea what is was I did) that completely killed the performance of  the 
> Zope server.
> 
> I think I'll try something PHP based next, as I've been using PHP for 
> other things for a couple of months now, and have been greatly impressed 
> by it.  It would certainly be my language of choice for doing pretty 
> much anything web-related (whereas the Python/Html combination that is 
> TAL, wouldn't really)
> 
> However...
> 
> apt-cache search nuke
> 
> ....on my nice new Debian Woody installation failed to reveal any of the 
> usual suspects (php-nuke or post-nuke, although it did reveal a 
> death-match game that sounded most intriguing).  Perhaps someone running 
> an edgier version Debian (sarge/unstable/whatever) could try the same 
> for me, and let me know? - as I feel sure I've read somewhere on the web 
> that one or the other was available.
> 
> I have, however, noticed something called phpgroupware in my apt-cache, 
> which looks very promising (lots of add-ons available and an API for 
> writing your own).  Has anyone here tried it?
> 
> For that matter, what other Content Management System's have folks 
> played with?
> 
>     Best wishes,
> 
>        Antony
> 
> 
> P.S.  By the way, you also get lots of hits from  apt-cache search zope
> 
> 
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