[sclug] Domains, email web hosting

Patrick Kirk patrick at kirks.net
Wed Apr 6 12:51:09 UTC 2005

Too late and the problem is still there.  Damn - just gotta get my money 
back now :-(

Roland Turner (SCLUG) wrote:
> Patrick Kirk wrote:
>>Actually this Yahoo service looks good for ?22.  Just a shame its not
>>Anyone got any idea how to migrate the existing Inbox and Sent mails to
>> a web interface?
> That part of the problem I do not know how to solve, but take care with (/
> stay away from) Yahoo's small business service. Note that, in addition to
> anything else, you _CANNOT_ (with one special exception) share the same
> second-level domain name between Yahoo SB mail and anything else.
> Details:
> - The service requires you to delegate to yahoo's own DNS servers the
> domain that appears in inbound email addresses. So, if you're wanting
> yahoo SB mail to receive and present emails for joe at mydomain.com, then the
> provisioning process will pause at a not-yet-live state (no inbound emails
> being accepted) until it detects that you've redelegated mydomain.com the
> Yahoo SB mail DNS servers, which in turn generate the dynamic records
> required for the service to operate. (N.B. this is not "add an MX record
> to your zone file which directs incoming email to Yahoo's servers", this
> is "grant control of the entire domain to Yahoo's SB mail service").
> - The Yahoo SB mail DNS service is not the same as Yahoo domains; in
> particular you cannot add your own A or CNAME records to point to your
> web/ftp/whatever servers.
> - You can nominate a single webserver which they'll allow to be reached as
> www.mydomain.com; I don't recall whether it was through an A record, a
> CNAME record, an HTTP redirect or even an HTTP proxy.
> - Their recommended approach was to register two seperate domains for your
> email and web activities. This makes some sense if you are a webmail
> provider (yahoo.com addresses are available to the masses, yahoo-inc.com
> addresses are only available to Yahoo staff), but is a little inane for
> the rest of us.
> This is a little outside scope for the original poster's question, and
> it's even conceivable that Yahoo has fixed this particular problem. My
> intent is simply to warn that, while Yahoo's small business offering looks
> neat, it has some nasty catches and, frankly, I'd be astonished to learn
> that similar mistakes had not been made elsewhere in the design of the
> service.
> - Raz
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