[sclug] Re: sclug Digest, Vol 36, Issue 19

Tue Sep 26 19:44:38 UTC 2006

Thanks for the tips. I removed the PCI IDE card and now Suse sees my hard
drives as I would expect - /dev/hda etc.

I still find myself up a gum tree with regard to the wireless card. Can
anyone recommend a wireless card that will co-operate with a Netgear
wireless router using 801.11b/g, AND work with a Linux distro, preferably
Suse 10.1 or SimplyMepis/Ubuntu/debian or even Mandriva? Preferably one that
is supported out of the box by a particular disto? Being forced to work with
WinXP at home is not a pleasurable experience, I find, so I'd like to get
off this  particular wagon as soon as I can.

TIA

Neil

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>    1. Wireless (n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com)
>    2. Re: Wireless (Taiyo Rawle)
>    3. Re: Wireless (Robin Lewis)
>    4. Re: Wireless (Alex Butcher)
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> From: "n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com" <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:14:26 +0100
> Subject: [sclug] Wireless
> Two questions:
>
> 1. I have a Netgear WG311v3 wireless adapter fitted. It's fine with WinXP,
> but I want to install it into Linux. The trouble is that doing so with
> Mandriva or Ubuntu or Suse10 even appears to be about as painless and
> straightforward as extracting my teeth without an anaesthetic. The WG311v3
> uses a Marvel chipset, it appears, which none of these distros support
> directly, so I have to resort to ndiswrapper, but for all these distros
> that
> too  appears to be a nightmare to install.
>
> Can anyone point me to a distro that will support my wireless card out of
> the box, with or without ndiswrapper?
>
> 2. I tried to install Suse10, but the partitioner part of the installation
> seems to label existing partitions as hde1, hde2 etc, instead of hda1 hda2
> etc. I was a bit worried that this was the portent of doom, so I hastily
> aborted. Can anyone offer a rational explanation of why Suse thinks my
> partitions start at 'e'? Is this normal?
>
> Neil Haughton
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Taiyo Rawle <taiyo_rawle at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: n.a.haughton at bigfoot.com
> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:49:07 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Wireless
> > 2. I tried to install Suse10, but the partitioner
> > part of the installation
> > seems to label existing partitions as hde1, hde2
> > etc, instead of hda1 hda2
> > etc. I was a bit worried that this was the portent
> > of doom, so I hastily
> > aborted. Can anyone offer a rational explanation of
> > why Suse thinks my
> > partitions start at 'e'? Is this normal?
>
> Do you have any more IDE controllers in your system? -
> Sometimes if you have (for example) a PCI IDE card
> then that could be hda,b,c and d so the motherboard
> IDE interfaces would start at hde.
>
> Sorry I don't know anything about getting wireless
> working...
>
> Cheers!
> -Taiyo
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Robin Lewis <goten at squad-wars.com>
> To: Taiyo Rawle <taiyo_rawle at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:11:41 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Wireless
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> If SuSE uses udev, the device nodes shouldn't be created unless the
> devices actually exist; meaning that if you have two hard drives,
> they'll go hda([0-9]+) hdb([0-9]+), unless they're SATA/SCSI. That's
> my experience, anyway - SuSE may do things differently.
>
> - --
> Robin Lewis
> Proud Slackware user
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> From: Alex Butcher <lug at assursys.co.uk>
> To: Robin Lewis <goten at squad-wars.com>
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:05:19 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Wireless
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Robin Lewis wrote:
>
> > If SuSE uses udev, the device nodes shouldn't be created unless the
> > devices actually exist; meaning that if you have two hard drives,
> > they'll go hda([0-9]+) hdb([0-9]+)
>
> Sort of - the device nodes that are created/used depends on the
> controllers
> that the drives are attached to. The fact that Neil has hde suggests that
> he
> has at least 3 (probably 4) PATA channels, and the drive is attached to
> the
> 3rd of these (rather than the 1st, which would have been normal in 1995
> when
> much Linux documentation was originally written). This is all quite
> normal.
>
> >, unless they're SATA/SCSI. That's my experience, anyway - SuSE may do
> > things differently.
>
> Yes, SATA drives show up as pseudo-SCSI devices. The ATA command set is
> essentially the same as SCSI anyway, only the lowest layers differ (i.e.
> physical, and wire protocol).
>
> > Robin Lewis
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex.
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