[sclug] Ubuntu issues

[Pieter Claassen]

I have just upgraded to 9.10 and am very happy. I have an ATI Radeon 4850
and have had the world's problems with it (so much for the Nvidia/ATI
debate). However, the latest open source drivers with 9.10 works pretty well
with the card (better that the closed source driver for my config).

A general issue with Ubuntu for me is that they are doing a lot of things in
a 'new' way. For example, network configuration is done using a
NetworkManager(?) and even though /etc/network/interfaces still works. Using
it stops NetworkManager from doing its job properly and consequently you
have issues like dns not always working (/etc/resolv.conf empty) and no
obvious way to configure it etc. This "ambition" creep of distros that want
to take over the world (never mind the desktop) results in an ongoing
"learning-curve-challenge" because documentation is normally way behind the
curve (and anyhow, I mostly want to use Linux to do my job, not read
documentation when my network stops working).

P

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Stephen <lohapuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> By the time you have installed 9.04, 9.10 is being released.
>
>
> On 10/06/2009 08:08 PM, Neil Haughton wrote:
>
>> Many thanks. A job for the weekend - I'll let you know how it turns out. I
>> like 9.04 though, quite polished I think, so it's a shame about the
>> regression issues.
>>
>> I've just reported my first bug (I think), the printer one. We'll see.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/6 Alan Pope<alan at popey.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2009/10/6 Neil Haughton<haughtonomous at googlemail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Isn't that just the basic ISO?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ ->  ISOs
>>> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ->  Repo.
>>>
>>> So instead of this in your sources.list:-
>>>
>>> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main
>>>
>>> You have:-
>>>
>>> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ main
>>>
>>> And so on..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> What makes you think it isn't available?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I read it in the forums, that it broke the latest xorg and the official
>>>> Canonical line was to buy an ATI Rage or similar card, because nvidia
>>>>
>>>>
>>> would
>>>
>>> I've not seen any Canonical official advise of that kind at all. Many
>>> will advocate the use of open source drivers which support 3d
>>> acceleration on ATI cards though over nVidia cards with the binary
>>> driver.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can only go on what I read, and I decided to hold off until a few
>>>>
>>>>
>>> months
>>>
>>>
>>>> after 9.04 arrived and try that, which I did. Perhaps I'll give 8.04 a
>>>>
>>>>
>>> try
>>>
>>>
>>>> instead - where is the nvidia driver obtained from? The aptitude
>>>> repositories, or the Restricted Drivers tool, or elsewhere?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Either/Both
>>>
>>> See the documentation for details:-
>>>
>>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+nvidia
>>>
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


-- 
Pieter Claassen
musmato.com