[sclug] sclug Digest, Vol 84, Issue 8
Neil Haughton
haughtonomous at googlemail.com
Wed Sep 29 12:21:08 UTC 2010
Thanks all,
I actually simply wanted to copy the files to somewhere else and copy them
back to the replacement box (which uses the same sky card), so I could
actually watch them some time, but all the King's horses and men at Sky were
unable or unwilling to help.
I had no intention of depriving Rupert and his friends of their due earnings
(gosh knows they need it) - I just wanted to be able to watch stuff I was
about to watch when their equipment went wrong.
But the box has been replaced now so the pressure's off, but for
future-proofing I would dearly love to know how to do it.
Thanks for all the advice, to no avail I'm afraid. ;-(
Neil.
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> 1. Connecting to my Sky+ box (Neil Haughton)
> 2. Re: Connecting to my Sky+ box (Neil Brown)
> 3. Re: Connecting to my Sky+ box (Daniel Craigie)
> 4. Re: Connecting to my Sky+ box (Tom Carbert-Allen)
> 5. Hardware giveaway (David Given)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Neil Haughton <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:18:01 +0100
> Subject: [sclug] Connecting to my Sky+ box
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know how to connect to a Sky+ box over a home network?
>
> I have managed to enable my Sky+ box to connect to my router and acquire an
> IP address, using DHCP, but from my desktop PC although I can see the Sky
> box is connected, I cannot access it. That is, I can't see what's on it.
>
> Essentially I want to be able to copy stored films to my PC for backup, and
> back again. They're coming to take my Sky box away today and replace it
> with a new one that actually works with two signal inputs as it should, and
> in the changeover process I am going to lose a lot of films I have recorded
> and not yet watched. The aerial monkey who is coming says that he can't
> transfer them to the new box 'because it is a special satellite device,
> mate'. It's not, it's a ruddy computer, probably running Linux I'll wager.
> In fact Sky technical support told me as much.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Neil.
>
>
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> > From: James Tobin <jamestobin at hotmail.com>
> > To: <sclug at sclug.org.uk>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:28:51 +0000
> > Subject: [sclug] OT : Nokia E72 Phone Charger
> >
> > Hi, forgive me but I am broken down on the Kennett and Avon Canal
> (recently
> > acquired a narrowboat) just outside Theale and need a Nokia E72 phone
> > charger for tonight.
> >
> > Just wondered if anybody might be able to help please.
> >
> > Thanks James
> >
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Neil Brown <neil at neilzone.co.uk>
> To: haughtonomous at googlemail.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:29:49 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Connecting to my Sky+ box
> Quoting Neil Haughton <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>:
>
> It's not, it's a ruddy computer, probably running Linux I'll wager.
>> In fact Sky technical support told me as much.
>>
>
> If you run an nmap scan against it, are there any open ports which might
> allow you to telnet / ftp in?
>
> Can you remove the HDD and mount it on another computer? (Not accessing it
> over the network, but, physical access might be easier.)
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Neil
>
> neil at neilzone.co.uk | http://neilzone.co.uk
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>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Daniel Craigie <danielcraigie at gmail.com>
> To: "sclug at sclug.org.uk" <sclug at sclug.org.uk>
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:31:47 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Connecting to my Sky+ box
>
> On 27 Sep 2010, at 13:18, Neil Haughton <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to connect to a Sky+ box over a home network?
> >
> > I have managed to enable my Sky+ box to connect to my router and acquire
> an
> > IP address, using DHCP, but from my desktop PC although I can see the Sky
> > box is connected, I cannot access it. That is, I can't see what's on it.
> >
> > Essentially I want to be able to copy stored films to my PC for backup,
> and
> > back again.
>
> I was under the impression that all recorded data on the HD is still
> encrypted. So even if you managed to download the unwatched content onto a
> computer, you would not be able to view it.
>
> During the strong winds last year our dish was blown out of satellite
> alignment. Ok, I said, we'll just watch the recorded content. But a sky box
> will not play any recorded programs without an active feed. I imagine it's
> designed to stop you filling a box up and sending the disk off to a friend
> outside the UK.
>
> > They're coming to take my Sky box away today and replace it
> > with a new one that actually works with two signal inputs as it should,
> and
> > in the changeover process I am going to lose a lot of films I have
> recorded
> > and not yet watched. The aerial monkey who is coming says that he can't
> > transfer them to the new box 'because it is a special satellite device,
> > mate'. It's not, it's a ruddy computer, probably running Linux I'll
> wager.
> > In fact Sky technical support told me as much.
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> > On 27 September 2010 13:00, <sclug-request at sclug.org.uk> wrote:
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> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: James Tobin <jamestobin at hotmail.com>
> >> To: <sclug at sclug.org.uk>
> >> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:28:51 +0000
> >> Subject: [sclug] OT : Nokia E72 Phone Charger
> >>
> >> Hi, forgive me but I am broken down on the Kennett and Avon Canal
> (recently
> >> acquired a narrowboat) just outside Theale and need a Nokia E72 phone
> >> charger for tonight.
> >>
> >> Just wondered if anybody might be able to help please.
> >>
> >> Thanks James
> >>
> >>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Tom Carbert-Allen <tom at randominter.net>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:34:01 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Connecting to my Sky+ box
> Neil,
>
> It's not that simple, obviously Sky has a commitment to the content
> providers to keep the content secure even when recorded. There is no way to
> pull the files over the network with stock firmware. You can open it and get
> to the fat32 format IDE drive (in cable select mode) though, so you can pull
> it out and read the files. But they are encrypted files, which are tied to
> your smart card (and your box if I remember correctly). People talk of
> copying the files to a bigger disk and dropping it back in to increase
> capacity, but not sure if you can drop it in a different box (with same
> smart card for sure though).
> Best to ask on nosky.co.uk or digitalspy forums etc.
> I have never had the official sky box (although have been watching the
> streams on other hardware) so I can't say more than that.
>
> Tom
>
> On 27/09/2010 1:18, Neil Haughton wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Does anyone know how to connect to a Sky+ box over a home network?
>>
>> I have managed to enable my Sky+ box to connect to my router and acquire
>> an
>> IP address, using DHCP, but from my desktop PC although I can see the Sky
>> box is connected, I cannot access it. That is, I can't see what's on it.
>>
>> Essentially I want to be able to copy stored films to my PC for backup,
>> and
>> back again. They're coming to take my Sky box away today and replace it
>> with a new one that actually works with two signal inputs as it should,
>> and
>> in the changeover process I am going to lose a lot of films I have
>> recorded
>> and not yet watched. The aerial monkey who is coming says that he can't
>> transfer them to the new box 'because it is a special satellite device,
>> mate'. It's not, it's a ruddy computer, probably running Linux I'll wager.
>> In fact Sky technical support told me as much.
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>> On 27 September 2010 13:00,<sclug-request at sclug.org.uk> wrote:
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>>> 1. OT : Nokia E72 Phone Charger (James Tobin)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: James Tobin<jamestobin at hotmail.com>
>>> To:<sclug at sclug.org.uk>
>>> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:28:51 +0000
>>> Subject: [sclug] OT : Nokia E72 Phone Charger
>>>
>>> Hi, forgive me but I am broken down on the Kennett and Avon Canal
>>> (recently
>>> acquired a narrowboat) just outside Theale and need a Nokia E72 phone
>>> charger for tonight.
>>>
>>> Just wondered if anybody might be able to help please.
>>>
>>> Thanks James
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Given <dg at cowlark.com>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:00:57 +0100
> Subject: [sclug] Hardware giveaway
> I've been doing a clearout, and have a lot of stuff I no longer want.
> Anybody interested?
>
> http://www.cowlark.com/2010-10-27-surplus-hardware/
>
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