[sclug] sclug Digest, Vol 95, Issue 1

Thu Aug 4 12:15:09 UTC 2011

If the Beeb's practice or policy was to rip off copyright holders there
would have been an outcry by now (by said copyright holders). And if the
copyright holders simply haven't noticed this routine practice, well, more
fool them, I'd say.

Neil.

On 4 August 2011 13:00, <sclug-request at sclug.org.uk> wrote:

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>   1. Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Neil Haughton)
>   2. Re: Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Alex Butcher)
>   3. Re: Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Dickon Hood)
>   4. Re: Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Jacqui Caren-home)
>   5. Re: Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Simon Huggins)
>   6. Re: Just to spoil everyone's tea... (Alex Butcher)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Neil Haughton <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:22:19 +0100
> Subject: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
>
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/08/intellectual-property
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alex Butcher <lug at assursys.co.uk>
> To: Neil Haughton <haughtonomous at googlemail.com>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:52:16 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Neil Haughton wrote:
>
>  http://www.economist.com/**blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/**
>> 08/intellectual-property<http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/08/intellectual-property>
>>
>
> In other news, the UK government has accepted the recommendations of the
> Hargreaves IP review, and will legalise ripping of CDs for personal use.
> (DVDs might well be legal to rip, but only if you don't have to break any
> encryption, or other 'technical measures', as then you'll fall foul of the
> EUCD as implemented in the Copyright and Related Rights Regulations
> 2003...)
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dickon Hood <dickon-ml at fluff.org>
> To: Alex Butcher <lug at assursys.co.uk>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:15:40 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 13:52:16 +0100, Alex Butcher wrote:
> : On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Neil Haughton wrote:
>
> : >
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/08/intellectual-property
>
> : In other news, the UK government has accepted the recommendations of the
> : Hargreaves IP review, and will legalise ripping of CDs for personal
> : use. (DVDs might well be legal to rip, but only if you don't have to
> : break any
> : encryption, or other 'technical measures', as then you'll fall foul of
> the
> : EUCD as implemented in the Copyright and Related Rights Regulations
> 2003...)
>
> This is good.  On the downside, it looks like they've also accepted the
> recommendations which reduce the copyright protection on amateur-produced
> works.  So uploading photos to a photo sharing site more or less grants
> media organisations permission to use them, AIUI.
>
>
> Dickon Hood
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jacqui Caren-home <jacqui.caren at ntlworld.com>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:36:43 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
> On 03/08/2011 14:15, Dickon Hood wrote:
>
>> This is good.  On the downside, it looks like they've also accepted the
>> recommendations which reduce the copyright protection on amateur-produced
>> works.  So uploading photos to a photo sharing site more or less grants
>> media organisations permission to use them, AIUI.
>>
>
> Hmm so BBC will be legally ripping people off now instead of simply hoping
> legal threats will stop people complaining about the BBC's theft of images
> and content?
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Simon Huggins <huggie at earth.li>
> To: sclug at sclug.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:42:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 04:36:43PM +0100, Jacqui Caren-home wrote:
> > On 03/08/2011 14:15, Dickon Hood wrote:
> > >This is good.  On the downside, it looks like they've also accepted the
> > >recommendations which reduce the copyright protection on
> amateur-produced
> > >works.  So uploading photos to a photo sharing site more or less grants
> > >media organisations permission to use them, AIUI.
> > Hmm so BBC will be legally ripping people off now instead of simply
> > hoping legal threats will stop people complaining about the BBC's
> > theft of images and content?
>
> I'm not quite sure where that came from.  If you've seen examples of
> this I would suggest complaining to the BBC rather than posting to sclug
> though.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alex Butcher <lug at assursys.co.uk>
> To: Simon Huggins <huggie at earth.li>
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:01:42 +0100 (BST)
> Subject: Re: [sclug] Just to spoil everyone's tea...
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Simon Huggins wrote:
>
>  On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 04:36:43PM +0100, Jacqui Caren-home wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/08/2011 14:15, Dickon Hood wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is good.  On the downside, it looks like they've also accepted the
>>>> recommendations which reduce the copyright protection on
>>>> amateur-produced
>>>> works.  So uploading photos to a photo sharing site more or less grants
>>>> media organisations permission to use them, AIUI.
>>>>
>>> Hmm so BBC will be legally ripping people off now instead of simply
>>> hoping legal threats will stop people complaining about the BBC's
>>> theft of images and content?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not quite sure where that came from.  If you've seen examples of
>> this I would suggest complaining to the BBC rather than posting to sclug
>> though.
>>
>
> I've not heard of the Beeb using images without permission. Previous
> offenders have been advertisers
> (<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Flickr#Virgin_Mobile_ad_**copyright<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flickr#Virgin_Mobile_ad_copyright>>),
> GAP
> (<http://www.petapixel.com/**2011/02/02/gap-uses-flickr-**
> photo-for-clothing-graphic-**without-permission/<http://www.petapixel.com/2011/02/02/gap-uses-flickr-photo-for-clothing-graphic-without-permission/>
> >),
> and The Independent newspaper
> (<http://www.flickr.com/**photos/petezab/4276745361/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/petezab/4276745361/>
> >).
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
>
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