[Sderby] RE: C lessons

[mike]

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 Hi Dave Thank you for very helpful information ,=0D
I am sorry but I have got you mixed up with Dave C =0D
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I am more interested in the C++ but I would start with  the C =0D
so that we could work together and make the lessons easier =0D
for you ,=0D
I like the idea of the doc book that way you could take one main =0D
copy and this could be copied and kept in a folder and could be =0D
studied anytime  or a copy could be down loaded from the website.=0D
I would like to use one Linux compiler that would support both =0D
C/C++ and learn to use this one properly,=0D
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I do have Borlands Delphi 7 prof for Windows =0D
and Kylix  version 3 prof for Linux .=0D
But I have not had much time to use this software yet.=0D
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I have not been a member of the club for very long and I will =0D
go along with you and the other members .=0D
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Many Thanks Michael=0D
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From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=0D
Date: 25 April 2003 23:50:38=0D
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=0D
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE: C lessons=0D
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* mike (mike@mikelinton.co.uk) wrote:=0D
> I was expecting to do a C course and then follow on with the C++=0D
> one,=0D
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There's a C++ one? Who does that? It would make sens for the 2 course=0D
maintainers to talk to each other I reckon. Yes, I know C++ is a=0D
different language, but they are similar enough... If there isn't a=0D
C++ "course" I'm quite happy to extend my remit - I've done a fair bit=0D
of C++ in my time, too :)=0D
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> I would like to use one of the C/C++ programs with Linux SuSE 8.2 ,=0D
> and there seems to be a lot of docs on the SuSE disc ,and the C/C++=0D
> program ,But I am not sure which is the best one to go for maybe we=0D
> could all use the same version and do some of the lessons at home=0D
> and use a website as a base, like Andre suggests .=0D
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Do you mean the C/C++ compilers that come with SuSE?=0D
I would certainly intend that any C course to have exercises that=0D
would be done for "homework" :)=0D
The main differences between versions of the compilers wouldn't be=0D
ebough to mean that we'd all have to go and install the same version=0D
of the compiler - that's somewhat overkill. Even the big C++ breakage=0D
between gcc versions is only the ABI change - the source langauge is=0D
still the same.=0D
As for which language is best, the jury is still out - it's horses for=0D
courses. If you wanted a generalisation, I'd say that Bigger projects=0D
tend to benefit more from the object-oriented approach of C++, and C=0D
is "better" for smaller projects. However, there will be exceptions=0D
to any rule-of-thumb.=0D
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Putting the lessons on a webiste is not a problem; I hadn't=0D
entertained the thought of *not* putting them on the web; I was just=0D
thinking that doing the lessons in DocBook (or similar) would mean=0D
that students could take course notes rendered from the same source as=0D
the main material (basically easier for me to maintain).=0D
A wiki is a good idea, and will probably be the final destination,=0D
it's just that I've recently got a bee in my bonnet about DocBook :)=0D
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> Would there be a copyright problem using the linux C/C++ program=0D
> and the documentation ??.=0D
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Again, if you mean the compilers, then no, there are no copyright=0D
problems - as I understand it the "problem" with the copyright on the=0D
"old" C course was that Dave C didn't have the copyright to all of=0D
them. The problem was not the compiler that generated the binaries.=0D
The documentation is possibly also not all Dave C's, I envisage using=0D
the same basic structure as he used, but over time, re-doing those=0D
bits which either need replacing now, or get to the point where they=0D
need replacing in the future.=0D
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Cheers,=0D
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Dave.=0D
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