[Sussex] A new look to our web site

[Gareth Ablett]

Steve

 From: Steve Dobson [mailto:steve at dobson.org]
 Subject: Re: [Sussex] A new look to our web site
 
> Gareth (and everyone else)
> 
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:47:24AM +0100, Gareth Ablett wrote:
> >  From: Steve Dobson [mailto:steve at dobson.org]
> > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 11:11:45AM +0100, Gareth Ablett wrote:
> > > > Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  HTML 3.2 that's
like
> > > > ancient.
> > >
> > > But that's the version of HTML I know - it's still supported -
this
> > > isn't M$ land you know :-)
> >
> > Yes but we have to get recruits some where and I don't se them
coming
> > from macland.
> 
> I'm not saying that we shouldn't support the browsers.  I was just
making
> a dig at the point that in M$land you have to upgrade because the old
> standards are not supported.  Now that the PC market is just about at
> capacity M$ (or any company that has a monopoly in the OS market for a
> platform) need to generated money with upgrades as there is little or
> no growth in the replacement market.
> 
> > Sorry its just I'm used to coding in XHTML 1.1 that is also
supported
> > but lynx as long as you design it right.
> 
> I haven't got around to learning XHTML yet - It is on my ToDo list.

Its so much better plus you don't use damn table for design you only use
tables for tabular data in XHTML.


> > > > Tbh if you don't mind me offending you the code is crap the site
> > > > looks
> > > > nice in mozilla though but IMHO the code needs some work. I
looked
> > > > at it
> > > > In IE and although ie is crap it will display a properly coded
page
> > > > without a problem and it doesn't.
> > >
> > > What's wrong with it?  I did a page similar to this (same
techniques)
> > > and I was told by Karl that it look fine.  If you send me
(privately)
> > > an image I'll see what I can do to fix it.  It's probably
something
> > > simple.  What config of IE are you using?  Screen size? etc...
> >
> > Explorer version is 6.0.2800.1106IS
> > Res is 1600x1280
> >
> > I've attached some screens one in IE the second in firefox. The
colour
> > loss is just because of the png formatting.
> 
> The IE problem was due to poor support in IE for transparent PNGs.  I
used
> the scaling clear pixel cheat to position some of the textual
components
> and these were being rendered as white by IE.  I've replaced these
with
> a clear pixel GIF (Damn - I didn't want to use non F/OSS formats).  It
> should render okay now.

Better but there are sill gaps. Although it would annoy you but you
don't get this problem with XHTML.

> The Firefox system was one of size.  All table columns expand if there
is
> is not enough text in the unlimited column to force the others to
there
> minimum (and required) widths.  I've added text to the presentation
page
> so it should now be okay.  Of course this will be a problem in the
future
> when 4094x2048 screens become available.
> 
> > > I see the menu system changing long term.  It we can get some real
> > > content of the site it will have to change.  It will do for the
> > > moment,
> > > unless most would like a fixed menu on the left.
> >
> > Btw do you grab the menu from one include file or do you have loads
of
> > pages you have to edit.
> 
> Both:  There are two fix parts that are in one of the scripts that get
> called - the first set of menu items (like the HOME button) and the
> last list of buttons (currently empty).  The other buttons for a page
> are defined in HTML comments with in the page PHP file and are
extracted
> by a script when the page is rendered.
> 
> Steve
> 

Gareth Ablett
Systems Developer

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