[sub] Re: [Sussex] Ok the gauntlets on the floor!

[Paul Turner]

Geoff,

But it's a victory won and it couldn't be done
By the hippy-dippy flaky-shaky fun-in-the-sun
Braless wonders - Flinty Kind of Woman - Dar Williams

Google is a wonderful thing..... now about that pint...

;-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Williams" <sdp.williams at btinternet.com>
To: "LUG email list for the Sussex Counties" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:02 PM
Subject: [sub] Re: [Sussex] Ok the gauntlets on the floor!


> On Thursday 10 June 2004 16:15, Geoff Teale wrote:
> > Steve Dobson wrote:
> > >AFAIK the "software communism" is M$ FUD (if not M$ then someone trying
> > >to stop Open/Free Software).  It amazes me that there are still many
> > >Americans that think that communism is akin to devil worship.
> >
> > Goddam pinko, commy bar stewards....
> >
> > ... actually it's important to note that Open Source and Free Software
> > is not an exclusively left wing thing.  Whilst RMS may well be a
> > hippy-chickey-flakey-shakey-fun-in-the-sun-braless-wonder (a pint to the
> > first person who gets that reference), Eric S. Raymond is a pro-gun,
> > confederate flag waving son-of-a-republican ;-)
> >
> > I'm also aware of at least one fasc^H^H^H^H conservative voter on this
> > list ;-)
>
> Capital C please, as in "C"onservative, you comm^H^H^H^H^H floating voter.
>
> Steve W.
>
> >
> > >As for the "software cancer" our friends over in *BSD land do see the
> > >GPL as a virus.  And they do have a point.  The GPL requires that any
> > >derived work is also GPLed - thus "cancer".
> > >
> > >The BSD license places no such restriction on derived works.  You can
> > >take the BSD source, compile it (changing the name from "BSD" to
> > >"BJOS" [1] but only if you want) and sell it on.  So in this sense the
> > >BSD is more "free" than the GPL.
> >
> > BSD people often argue that their license is more free than the GPL.  In
> > a sense they are right - however, the GNU project started out on a
> > similar footing and only added restrictions that forced people to play
> > fair when RMS himself was threatened with a cease and desist order for
> > working on his own code by a company that had bought the rights to a
> > work derived from that code.  Specifically look on the web for the
> > relationship between Emacs (RMS's creation) and GOSMACS (a derived
work).
> >
> > In short.  The BSD license is for those of an ideological bent, the GPL
> > is for people who want to make the world a better place, but don't want
> > to get roughly screwed by a thousand pound gorilla whilst they do it. ;)
> >
> > PS, please take the time to find the real meaning of the word
> > ideological before deciding what you think of the above sentence.
>
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