[Sussex] Free Opera registrations

[Stephen Williams]

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 17:19 +0100, Geoffrey Teale wrote:
> Steve Dobson wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, but if I had a machine I didn't care about then fear wouldn't be
> > a factor.  The "trouble" with running Linux is that every machine, even
> > the old ones, so long as they still work, can be put to some use.
> 
> Touche.
> 
> > Except for its size.  Firefox's footprint suggest bloatware to me.
> > Opera, I hear, is smaller and lighter and I does the work perfectly.
> > But, yes, Firefoxes freedom credentials are much, much better.
> 
> Hmm, maybe.  I know opera is used in embedded systems (phones 
> principally).  That said I've not really heard anyone complain about 
> Firefox's footprint, compared to Mozilla its a lightweight.
> 
> Ooh, ooh, irrelevant but strangely fitting quote:
> 
> "You're posting to a Scheme group. Around here, arguing that Java is
> better than C++ is like arguing that grasshoppers taste better than
> tree bark."
>          -- Thant Tessman <thant at acm.org> in comp.lang.scheme
> 
> > No this is a Linux Users' Group - there isn't just you that uses Linux
> > on this list :-)
> 
> A group belonging to a Linux User, possibly?   Maybe you're suggesting 
> it's a group of Linux users, but in that case why the apostrophe at all? 
>   From my point of view it is a set of people who have the attribute of 
> Linux use in common.   For that reason I believe it is a:
> 
> Linux User Group
> 
> ... for the same reason that I believe a group of numbers that are all 
> integers would be an:
> 
> Integer Group
> 
> ... as apposed to an:
> 
> Integers Group
> 
> .., an:
> 
> Integers' Group
> 
> ... or even worse an:
> 
> Integer's Group.
> 
> Do you see?
> 

Oh for God's sake!

teale teale_g # emerge --emptytree life

Sorry, I forgot, you're using Ubuntu now:

teale teale_g # apt-get install life



> > Unchecked probably not, but this is a _Linux_ Users' Group not a 
> > _Free_Software_ Users' Group so talk about any software that runs on
> > Linux is allowable, at least in my book.
> 
> Fair enough.  I didn't say that it was wrong to talk about Opera, only 
> that I felt duty bound to point out the things I did.  I do consider it 
> an important part of my role within the community as a whole to nudge 
> people whenever they're tempted towards non-free software and to hand 
> down 50 hail-stallman's as absolution for anyone who confesses to using 
> it.  :-)
>