[Sussex] Noob

[Stephen Williams]

On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 20:38 +0000, Richie Jarvis wrote:
> Mark Harrison (Groups) wrote:
> 
> > That's not the only problem. There are some bugs in Firefox still, 
> > which do cause some problems. More commonly, however, are the site 
> > designers who have tested against IE, and found that sites worked, and 
> > not realised that their sites were therefore effectively working 
> > around bugs in IE at the expense of breaking standards.
> >
> > Particularly true with DIV tags, and with Javascript.
> 
> Yeah - I find it completely dies on Javascript sites.  You know, the 
> more I think about this debate, the more I think that Longhorn is going 
> to be the windoze killer.  I was watching an interview with Gates today 
> - he avoided every single question that was asked of him.  Anyway, if 
> Longhorn is the DRM infested, memory hungry piece of junk that it looks 
> like it will be, then that will force more people to switch to Linux.
> 
> The real driver for Linux I think will be companies.  The more companies 
> that run Linux, the more people will understand it, and the more 
> acceptable it will become at home.  Schools are another bit hitter in 
> this as well - if kids can use Linux at school, and then run their games 
> at home - this will make the next generation of users already setup.
> 
> Up until 3 years ago, the companies I worked for would not run a Linux 
> desktop - now many are doing so - the more it can be proved that Linux 
> works, the better.  The big stick is M$ though - I recently was asked to 
> price an Exchange server, because that allows my staff to share their 
> calendars (and virii!) - the cost for a small biz server is about £1500 
> now - up to 50 users, inc domain seats, and exchange seats.  I can't 
> compete with that on open source, wish I could!  (If anyone has any 
> suggestions at this point - I am all ears!)
> 

SuSE Linux Enterprise Server/Novell Open Enterprise Server
SuSE Open Exchange Server/Open-Xchange Server

I'm having a play with OpenExchange at the moment - it's still very much
in the early stages and the install is the most protracted and complex
I've come across. I dare say when it matures that it'll be much easier
to get running.

http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/

> The thing is that the learning curve for normal users to Linux needs is 
> too steep.
> 
> Richie
> 
> 
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