[Sussex] The gimp and associated problems (under Kubuntu 6.06)

[John D.]

On Monday 07 August 2006 21:32, Steven Dobson wrote:
> John
>
> You replied just to me and not to the list.  As I didn't read anything
> that didn't appear private I assume that was just a little PEBKAC error
> at your end.
Ha! didn't notice that it went directly too you Steve (Sorry list, rather poor 
mannered on my part).

>
> On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 21:21 +0100, John D. wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 August 2006 22:49, Steven Dobson wrote:
> > > If might be then that the archive is out of date.  I see this with sid
> > > (the development archive in Debian).  I can only suggest that you wait
> > > a few days and try again.
> >
> > I'm wondering if there are specific repositories for the development
> > stuff.
>
> If Kbuntu follows "the Debian way" then no.  The repositories hold
> software for different releases and the development "release" just never
> gets released as it where.

OK, understand that.

> > For example, the gimps "plasma" plugin. It's a tar.gz package, which when
> > untarred, tells me (in the readme) that I should just have to cd to the
> > plasma directory and do either make install or make install-user.
> >
> > the error that shows up, is very long, but the first lines seem to be
> > looking for the gimptool bin file.
>
> This appears to be more like downloading the source to compile the plug
> in.  Are you doing an "apt-get build" by any chance?

I don't honestly know - I'm presuming that thats how some of the plugins are. 
Some come as Perl scripts, some as python scrips and as ".scm" files (gimp 
scripts ???).

The others are in the form of tar.gz, tar.bz2, or directly in "C". Whether 
that means I'm trying to compile them, I don't know. My limited knowledge 
says that I'm just "installing" them.

>
> > Now the gimptool appears to be in the development packages (the library
> > is the only thing I can see listed).
> >
> > The libgimp2.0-dev is dependant on the libgtk2.0-dev - which isn't listed
> > by synaptic, one libgtkgl2.0-dev is (but it seems to be dependant on the
> > libgtk2.0-dev so I have to presume that they are 2 different packages).
>
> They are in Debian.  I checked for you.  Why you are not seeing them in
> the repository you're looking at I have no idea.
>
> > So, not having the libgtk2.0-dev listed by synaptic, if I then try to
> > install it via CLI it's erroring out with dependancies for libcairo,
> > libpango and a couple of others (various number versions but all,
> > seemingly, development packages).
>
> Either they've broken the packages, or you're broken your source.list
> and installed packages that have generated so bad dependancies on your
> system.

See below.

> > It may be that there is something within my system that is causing the
> > package(s) to show as broken - or that there is a different repository
> > that I need to have in my sources.list I've no way of telling.
>
> See above.
>
> > I don't think that this is a case of archives etc, being out of date
> > Steve, I've been trying to do this for a couple of weeks without much
> > joy.
>
> Doesn't sound like it.  I think it is more something you've done.
>
> > Plus, digging round "the bazaars" it seems that others have sorted this
> > out. I wonder what I need to do/try next (having already tried removing
> > various packages to see if they were the cause of the problems -
> > different bits that seems to be gtk related).
>
> Do an "apt-cache show" for those two packages.  If you get results back
> then the packages are in a repository they you currently have
> sources.list pointed at.  Then do an "apt-get --purge remove" to remove
> those packages from your system and then try "apt-get install" to
> install them from the archieve.  It may not be those packages but others
> they depend upon that are the problem.

Well, I did the things that you said above, and got lots of output about them 
i.e. they do indeed seem to be in the main Ubuntu repository (from output of 
apt-cache show).

The purge command just said that I don't have them installed so it can't 
remove them - which is fine, I understand that.

The attempt at install then just gives me the same errors i.e. it won't 
install and at the end of the error dialogue it just says E: broken packages, 
which I don't believe for a moment. libgimp and libgtk ? some minor, 
relatively unknown application, maybe, but gimp and gtk/gnome?
I just can't see it.

Bugger!

Still absolutely stumped.

regards

John D.