[Sussex] Two operating systems & one camera...

[John D.]

On Friday 14 July 2006 23:29, Nic James Ferrier wrote:
> Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> writes:
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 11:06:46PM +0100, Nic James Ferrier wrote:
> >> "Vic" <lug at beer.org.uk> writes:
> >> >> (how the hell do I get rid or sudo, or
> >> >> at least relegate it to the background so I can use the system in the
> >> >> traditional "root/user" method ???).
> >> >
> >> > sudo passwd
> >>
> >> That sets root's passwd to something.
> >>
> >> But you also need to config sudo so that it asks for the root password
> >> instead of the user password.
> >
> > I don't think the OP was asking for that. I think they wanted to switch
> > to the traditional "root for admin" "user for use". Where you switch to
> > root to install stuff for example.
>
> Yes. And to do that with the least fuss on ubuntu you need to set the
> root password and change sudo so that it asks for the root passwd
> instead of the user password.
>
> Then using sudo is just like using:   su -c '...'
>
> The only other way he could achieve this is by altering the links to
> each program from sudo to su. But doing that is unreliable because as
> soon as the package is upgraded it'll be back to sudo.
>
> So instead, config sudo to behave the way you want it to.
>
> > I'd agree that sudo is the best way though :)
>
> Conventional sudo (user password to authenticate + rules in the
> sudoers file) is the best way, yes.  /8->
Well I'd already managed to "activate" the root password and also made it so 
that I can log into root graphically (sorry, I'm too much a "child of GUI" 
not to have that ability), but when I did try to change the /etc/sudoers file 
to that the line that starts with "Defaults" has rootpw in it as well I just 
all that nonsense about it being a read only file etc.

It really annoys me that "they" have made the "buntu's" work like this - it 
may well be felt that it's making it easier to use, but for those of use who 
have been weaned on the traditional root/user methods of admin, the inability 
to change "it" to work like that is very irritating.

If I could work out how to get gentoo installed again (there doesn't seem to 
be a packages Cd available any longer so I can do a stage 3 + GRP install) I 
would have told the kubuntu to stuff it.

Hence, if I can find a complete list of what pre-compiled packages are 
available for gentoo so that I can just install from the liveCD installer CD 
then I would, but right now I can't locate enough info for me to be confident 
with what I'm doing (not being a CLI "boffin", previously I could just do 
this section by section from the install handbook, but that  still appears to 
reflect when the packages Cd was available and not as things now seen to be).

Ha! I'll have to go to bloody PC world anyway, as I've run out of CDR's to 
burn the download too!

regards

John D.