[Sussex] Linuxgym Training / LPI Certification

[jim snyder]

thanks for your kind reply, Steve. I admit I could have been more sensible about this posting. yes there are relatively few Linux users. on-list replies are obviously more acceptable in this group but if anyone wanted to reply off list they have the option. some of the replies I have received have been enlightening and I would like to share these by posting them to a site so that everyone in the UK could see them, as this is a national territory issue, but I need to get permission first. I am looking for these opinions to help LPI understand why LPI is failing in the UK compared with other territories. I intend to summarize the findings for the LinuxWorldExpo summit in Utrecht, and only quote & publish quotes with the authors' express permission. I liked your idea of searching the archives. I am more of an advocate since I have done unpaid volunteer work to promote Linux Training & Certification.  These opinions are for political purposes. I hope this is helpful. Cheers, Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve 'Dobbo' Dobson" <steve at dobson.org>
> To: "General Linux/Unix community List" <surrey at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [Sussex] Re: [Surrey] Linuxgym / LPI (was surrey)
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:20:36 +0100
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 07:44:40AM +0000, jim snyder wrote:
> > yes, i'm searching for views. there are relatively few Linux users in
> > the UK,
> 
> You could also argue that there are relatively few Linux users
> anywhere in the world, the 200 pound gorilla that is the Microsoft's
> user base is are hard nut to crack.
> 
> >         so I have joined every LUG! i'm reaching out to the community
> > for some clues about Linux Certification & training. the views range
> > from 'certification is b*ll*cks' to 'RHCE is the only acceptable
> > training cert. in the UK'..... some LUGs are more friendly than others.
> 
> If you are going to a community to ask for their opinion then shouldn't
> you do so in a a manor that is acceptable to that community?  Asking for
> off-list replies is not acceptable to me and to others.
> 
> I once opinioned that those that asked questions were a drain on the
> community.  I was wrong.  It was pointed out to me that the questions
> being asked were a valuable source of information to those that compiled
> the FAQs, a point I had completely overlooked.  So I ask you, why
> should the opinions you seek not be done on-list?  A discussion between
> two other list members may be enlightening to you and you would not get
> that correspondence if the other members were only communicating with you.
> 
> So if you would like my opinion on Linux Certification then I suggest
> that you rephrase your original posting in a manor that is acceptable to
> me.  That would include:
> 
>    1). Not requesting off-list replies.
>    2). A proper subject [1].
>    3). A full explanation of why you are looking for these opinions
>        and what you intend to do with them [2].
> 
> Steve
> 
> [1] If you had taken the trouble to look at the archives, or waited
>      for a post or two to observe the protocols of the list (as suggested
>      by netiquette), you would have seen that the text "[Surrey]" is added
>      to the start of the subject line and there was no need to title your
>      post after the list you submitted it to.
> 
> [2] There is a little voice in the back of my mind that is saying that
>      you are some kind of marketeer and that you want these opinions
>      for your marketing purposes.  I have seen a number of requests of
>      his kind over the years, mostly from students doing research for
>      a thesis.
> 
>      The ones I have responded to have always given full disclosure of
>      the intended purposes.  I find that both polite and helpful as I
>      am able to tailor my response appropriately.  The fact that you may
>      want to use my opinions commercial will not necessarily prohibit
>      me from making them.
> 
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Hi there, I'm a Certified Linux System Administrator & I've just joined. If you have ever used linuxgym.com or done LPI exams could you please email me your opinions of linuxgym & LPI exams to jim.snyder at linuxmail.org
Cheers :)

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