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[Daniel Drummond]

I gave BlueJ a try on some of my uni's computers.  I was thoroughly
unimpressed.  The best Java IDE out there in my opinion is IntelliJ
Idea.  It's logical in it's design, and does its job of assisting in
the coding process.  Perhaps I never stuck it out, but Eclipse just
made things difficult.

However I learned java by compiling from the command line.  By doing
it this way you learn the process by which the programs are put
together, rather than the "magic glue" that sticks ide written
programs together.

Good luck with Java!

Dan

2009/7/23 Steve Hill <steve at nexusuk.org>:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Andrew Price wrote:
>
>> http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/09/22/bluej-considered-harmful/
>>
>> Pretty much sums it up.
>
> Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything that article says.
>
> This is very familiar: "Today I helped a group of students who were
> completely mystified by the mysterious black box of cmd.exe. I swear I
> have never seen anyone so completely stumped by a command prompt."
>
> And I 100% agree with this: "We should be training young hackers, and
> encourage them to get down and dirty and messing around with the guts of
> their OS and programming environment. Instead, we are churning out batches
> of GUI clickers." - it's the "VB problem" all over again.
>
> Anyway, I've long thought that teaching Java as an introduction to
> programming is a bad idea.  It just isn't a suitable language to teach
> beginners with IMHO.
>
>  - Steve
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