Hiya root at daniel-debian:/var/log# echo $HTTP_PROXY root at daniel-debian:/var/log# logout dtmorgan at daniel-debian:/var/log$ echo $HTTP_PROXY dtmorgan at daniel-debian:/var/log$ seems that Curon's train of thought was correct. I had thought originally it was proxy related, but it was also effecting my ability to ssh so I'd discounted it. Dan