From chriscf at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 08:00:00 2023 From: chriscf at gmail.com (Chris Jackson) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 08:00:00 +0000 Subject: [Swlug] SWLUG Christmas curry 2023 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Last chance to join us if you haven't already. I'll be confirming the final number on Tuesday night, after which if you're not on the list, you're not coming in. On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 at 20:01, Chris Jackson wrote: > > Hi all, > > I booked a table for 6.30 on Tuesday 12 December. I have booked for more than just the list so you still have a little over a week to join the party before I give them the final number. > > Currently on the list: > * Me > * Matt M > * Louise+Ivan > * Alan+1 > * Steve+Carwyn > > Regards, > > Chris > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023, 20:02 Chris Jackson, wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> It's been a couple of years, but long-suffering members will remember that, back before the world ended, it was as Matt would say "almost tradition" (having been 8 years in a row) that in December the Cardiff date would be a meal at the excellent Vegetarian Food Studio in Cardiff (https://vegetarianfoodstudio.uk/). This year, that would be on Tuesday 12 December. >> >> For those not aware, VFS specialises in Gujarati regional cuisine, including traditional street food and sweets. It has a very good reputation that many on this list will confirm is well-deserved, and they are very good at accommodating restricted diets. >> >> Typically we get their group special, which this year is ?25 per head, which is quite a bit more than it has been in previous years, but works the same as usual - we get a selection of snacks and curries served buffet style, and a small sweet to finish (usually gulab jamun). They do not serve alcohol, but do welcome BYO. (There is nominally a corkage fee, but I don't remember ever seeing it on the bill.) >> >> Location is about 10-15 mins walk from the city centre, about 5-10 mins walk from Grangetown station, or less than 5 mins walk from local buses at the cross (Pentre Street/Durham Street stops on Clare Road). There is limited on-street parking, but public spaces are available on the Embankment about 200m away. >> >> If you'd like to come, you can reply here or contact me directly off-list. I would be looking to confirm the booking towards the end of November. -- Chris Jackson From paul at paulstenning.com Mon Dec 4 09:25:14 2023 From: paul at paulstenning.com (Paul Stenning) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 09:25:14 +0000 Subject: [Swlug] SWLUG Christmas curry 2023 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48F3EAF5-D8F4-4EA5-A5BA-1F63C56DEFC2@paulstenning.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at matthewmoore.org.uk Mon Dec 11 20:49:29 2023 From: matt at matthewmoore.org.uk (Matt Moore) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 20:49:29 +0000 Subject: [Swlug] SWLUG Christmas curry 2023 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f1a36d1-a518-4623-b93d-d695d3a1daf7@matthewmoore.org.uk> Hi, Sorry, I'm not able to make tomorrow night. Hope you all have a nice time. Cheers, Matt On 04/12/2023 08:00, Chris Jackson via Swlug wrote: > Last chance to join us if you haven't already. I'll be confirming the > final number on Tuesday night, after which if you're not on the list, > you're not coming in. > > On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 at 20:01, Chris Jackson wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I booked a table for 6.30 on Tuesday 12 December. I have booked for more than just the list so you still have a little over a week to join the party before I give them the final number. >> >> Currently on the list: >> * Me >> * Matt M >> * Louise+Ivan >> * Alan+1 >> * Steve+Carwyn >> >> Regards, >> >> Chris >> >> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023, 20:02 Chris Jackson, wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> It's been a couple of years, but long-suffering members will remember that, back before the world ended, it was as Matt would say "almost tradition" (having been 8 years in a row) that in December the Cardiff date would be a meal at the excellent Vegetarian Food Studio in Cardiff (https://vegetarianfoodstudio.uk/). This year, that would be on Tuesday 12 December. >>> >>> For those not aware, VFS specialises in Gujarati regional cuisine, including traditional street food and sweets. It has a very good reputation that many on this list will confirm is well-deserved, and they are very good at accommodating restricted diets. >>> >>> Typically we get their group special, which this year is ?25 per head, which is quite a bit more than it has been in previous years, but works the same as usual - we get a selection of snacks and curries served buffet style, and a small sweet to finish (usually gulab jamun). They do not serve alcohol, but do welcome BYO. (There is nominally a corkage fee, but I don't remember ever seeing it on the bill.) >>> >>> Location is about 10-15 mins walk from the city centre, about 5-10 mins walk from Grangetown station, or less than 5 mins walk from local buses at the cross (Pentre Street/Durham Street stops on Clare Road). There is limited on-street parking, but public spaces are available on the Embankment about 200m away. >>> >>> If you'd like to come, you can reply here or contact me directly off-list. I would be looking to confirm the booking towards the end of November. > > > -- > Chris Jackson > From rhys_sage at yahoo.com Fri Dec 15 14:53:01 2023 From: rhys_sage at yahoo.com (Rhys Sage) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Swlug] Mashtastic? References: <653978817.1753889.1702651981040.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <653978817.1753889.1702651981040@mail.yahoo.com> I was just reading about "meshtastic" - some kind of wireless internet using LoRa. That sounds quite intriguing. I haven't found much information on it so far but had a look a the Meshtastic site. I wasn't impressed to see all the software was proprietary. I'd like to see open-source in Python. It sounds like a fun little thing I could do with a 4-line LCD display, LoRa adaptor and a Pi Pico or an ATTiny88 and C++. Has anybody here any experience of Meshtastic? Rhys Sage From jmarsden at fastmail.fm Fri Dec 15 22:39:02 2023 From: jmarsden at fastmail.fm (Jonathan Marsden) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:39:02 +0000 Subject: [Swlug] Mashtastic? In-Reply-To: <653978817.1753889.1702651981040@mail.yahoo.com> References: <653978817.1753889.1702651981040.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <653978817.1753889.1702651981040@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rhys, I've not used Meshtastic. However... There is a 2020 article on LoraWAN mesh networking at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7435450/ which might be worth a look as background, even though it is a few years old and a bit formal. For open source free Lora networking, you might look at FDRS, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JI5wZABWmA . Andreas Spiess, the creator of that video, has other Youtube videos on LoraWAN v3 etc. too. These are not Meshtastic... to me at a first glance, Meshtastic looks semi-proprietary, and so not interesting. When you see things like "Meshtastic? is a registered trademark of Meshtastic LLC. ", it doesn't bode well for real openness... however they claim on their legal page "We are merely geeks experimenting on a fun and free project.", so maybe there is hope? At least some of the Meshtastic software does seem to be open source. See https://github.com/meshtastic/python for the sources to their Python CLI client, for example. A Meshtastic node using a Pi Pico and a Waveshare SX1262 module might be an inexpensive way to explore this technology further. https://www.waveshare.com/product/raspberry-pi/boards-kits/raspberry-pi-pico-cat/pico-lora-sx1262-868m.htm . Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden Pastor, Deer Park Baptist Church, Tenby jmarsden at fastmail.fm On Fri, 15 Dec 2023, at 14:53, Rhys Sage via Swlug wrote: > I was just reading about "meshtastic" - some kind of wireless internet > using LoRa. That sounds quite intriguing. I haven't found much > information on it so far but had a look a the Meshtastic site. I wasn't > impressed to see all the software was proprietary. I'd like to see > open-source in Python. It sounds like a fun little thing I could do > with a 4-line LCD display, LoRa adaptor and a Pi Pico or an ATTiny88 > and C++. > > Has anybody here any experience of Meshtastic? > > Rhys Sage > > -- > Swlug mailing list > Swlug at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/swlug From rhys_sage at yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 17:33:06 2023 From: rhys_sage at yahoo.com (Rhys Sage) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Swlug] Mashtastic? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1774881109.2116658.1702747986609@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for that. I had a good read of that article. It does seem that LoRaWAN has great limitations but it's a very interesting concept. I can see applications for LoRaWAN but for the vast majority of us, it's a bit limited. The fact that the frequencies change from country to country is an interesting issue for portability. I can see great possibilities for a LoRaWAN network in certain circumstances. It could bring cheap and easy internet to remote places in Africa but StarLink would do it better. In terms of low cost then LoRa nodes paired with 18650 batteries, solar panels and charge controllers would be brilliant. Having said that, think unprotected nodes might be stolen and sold for quick cash. My conclusion is that while it is possible to get LoRa to work as a WAN, it seems better to use LoRa for the purpose for which it was designed - communications with devices over a couple of miles. I suppose in the mythical SHTF scenario, it could be viable. As such a scenario is extremely unlikely to happen and if it did then priorities would change away from electronics toward just straight survival. Rhys Sage On Saturday, 16 December 2023 at 07:00:06 GMT-5, swlug-request at mailman.lug.org.uk wrote: Send Swlug mailing list submissions to ??? swlug at mailman.lug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/swlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? swlug-request at mailman.lug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at ??? swlug-owner at mailman.lug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Swlug digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Mashtastic? (Rhys Sage) ? 2. Re: Mashtastic? (Jonathan Marsden) I was just reading about "meshtastic" - some kind of wireless internet using LoRa. That sounds quite intriguing. I haven't found much information on it so far but had a look a the Meshtastic site. I wasn't impressed to see all the software was proprietary. I'd like to see open-source in Python. It sounds like a fun little thing I could do with a 4-line LCD display, LoRa adaptor and a Pi Pico or an ATTiny88 and C++. Has anybody here any experience of Meshtastic? Rhys Sage Rhys, I've not used Meshtastic.? However... There is a 2020 article on LoraWAN mesh networking at ? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7435450/ which might be worth a look as background, even though it is a few years= old and a bit formal. For open source free Lora networking, you might look at FDRS, see https:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6JI5wZABWmA .? Andreas Spiess, the creator o= f that video, has other Youtube videos on LoraWAN v3 etc. too. These are not Meshtastic... to me at a first glance, Meshtastic looks se= mi-proprietary, and so not interesting.? When you see things like "Mesht= astic=C2=AE is a registered trademark of Meshtastic LLC. ", it doesn't b= ode well for real openness... however they claim on their legal page "We= are merely geeks experimenting on a fun and free project.", so maybe th= ere is hope? At least some of the Meshtastic software does seem to be open source.? S= ee https://github.com/meshtastic/python for the sources to their Python = CLI client, for example. A Meshtastic node using a Pi Pico and a Waveshare SX1262 module might be= an inexpensive way to explore this technology further.? https://www.wav= eshare.com/product/raspberry-pi/boards-kits/raspberry-pi-pico-cat/pico-l= ora-sx1262-868m.htm . Jonathan --=20 ? Jonathan Marsden ? Pastor, Deer Park Baptist Church, Tenby ? jmarsden at fastmail.fm On Fri, 15 Dec 2023, at 14:53, Rhys Sage via Swlug wrote: > I was just reading about "meshtastic" - some kind of wireless internet=20 > using LoRa. That sounds quite intriguing. I haven't found much=20 > information on it so far but had a look a the Meshtastic site. I wasn'= t=20 > impressed to see all the software was proprietary. I'd like to see=20 > open-source in Python. It sounds like a fun little thing I could do=20 > with a 4-line LCD display, LoRa adaptor and a Pi Pico or an ATTiny88=20 > and C++. > > Has anybody here any experience of Meshtastic? > > Rhys Sage > > --=20 > Swlug mailing list > Swlug at mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/swlug _______________________________________________ Swlug mailing list Swlug at mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/swlug From danielmorris.cengmiet at gmail.com Tue Dec 19 15:55:26 2023 From: danielmorris.cengmiet at gmail.com (Daniel Morris) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:55:26 +0000 Subject: [Swlug] Remote SWLUG on Jitsi tonight Tuesday 19 December 2023 at 7pm UTC Message-ID: Join us online tonight for SWLUG. Simply launch a web-browser and go to https://meet.jit.si/swlugmeetonline Or, https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/ and choose "Start a call" and enter "swlugmeetonline" as the name. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rhys_sage at yahoo.com Tue Dec 19 18:41:40 2023 From: rhys_sage at yahoo.com (Rhys Sage) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Swlug] Tonight's meeting. References: <681200484.3244892.1703011300205.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <681200484.3244892.1703011300205@mail.yahoo.com> I will be there but it might be an hour after the start. I'm just finishing up some shopping right now Rhys Sage -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: