> Bloddy hell, 2:15 in the morning it took to get Matt's Wlan going!! Oh yeh, and jono got me to do a dist upgrade :) We told it not to touch pcmcia-cs but now my wlan card has gone tits up ag= ain! But it still works if I ifdown, change it to adhoc, and ifup it, so thats = not so bad=2E Matt