[Wolves] New website discussion

David Morley davmor2 at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 18 12:10:43 BST 2005


I agree with Peter on the most part.  About 80% + of the guys a the meeting 
are techs of one sort or another.  I joined under the asuption I would learn 
more about linux when Jono bought in his laptop with luminocity running I 
thought that was amazing to see where linux could be going and I do get any 
problems I come across answered on the whole.  But my knowledge base is 
still in basic and I have to come across a problem to actually get it 
addressed.  On the whole not understanding a word of what is said at the 
meeting when you start talking tech. I am a Driver not a Mechanic to quote 
from Tux Magazine, it would be nice to learn more about what Linux is what's 
happening to it now and the direction it is going, but I must admit that 
this shouldn't be done in a completely formal manner forsaking the social 
side of Linux.

>From: Peter Cannon <peter at cannon-linux.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Wolves] New website discussion
>Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:51:10 +0100
>
>On Thursday 18 August 2005 10:57, Stuart Langridge wrote:
>
> > > The join bit should say [Join our user group]
> > >
> > > 1. Novices might not know the word LUG
> >
> > Hm. I see your theory, but I cannot for the life of me imagine how you
> > could have got as far as the Wolves LUG page without knowing what a
> > LUG is.
>
>The back page of Linux Format thats where I found it :)
>
>You're making the classic mistake all techie/in the know people make, when 
>you
>know something its difficult to see things from a don't know, don't
>understand perspective.
>
> > > 2. The link should take you to a page that sets out what membership to 
>a
> > > mailing list entails and also netiquette, you can pinch my page if you
> > > like it should be from there you actualy join.
> > >
> > > http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/etiquette.html
> >
> > Nope. Subscribing ought to be easy. I agree that there should be some
> > netiquette notes, but I think that they should be in the mail you get
> > *after you subscribe*. What does "what membership to a mailing list
> > entails" mean? As far as I'm aware "membership to a mailing list"
> > entails "receiving mails in your inbox". :)
>
>Yep it is, the way you have it set at the moment its too easy, most green
>individuals are scared enough without automatic subscription to something
>they know nothing about or how to use or what to expect.
>
> > > 3. Spartan frontend is good nobody like waiting three days for a page 
>to
> > > load but it looks a little sparse I know its rough copy.
> >
> > Sparseness was a key point here; stripped down thing which says "this
> > is where and when we're meeting". Everything else belongs on the wiki,
> > I think.
>
>Huh? I thought the site was to promote Wolves-LUG? not promote fortnightly
>meetings! they are just spin off benefits that only a lucky few are able to
>attend which then makes the group very secular.
>
>True if Wolves-LUG starts having talks and demonstarions then the meetings
>take on a more important role but I remember being at the standard when
>another LUG was slagged off for doing whats being proposed now?
>
>I still think its a brilliant idea and what, 3 years ago, I thought a LUG 
>was
>all about, members passing on their skills and abilities free of charge
>basking in the glory of open source providing tutorials and demonstrations.
>
>This seems a classic chicken and egg scenario, which do you do first make 
>the
>meetings better and more productive but not tell anyone about it or tell 
>them
>about it but don't do anything? the site is the focus that everything flows
>from and everyone can attend any time day or night thats the important bit.
>
>I missunderstood Jono's remit I thought the idea was to in effect conduct 
>some
>marketing to encourage membership growth and world domination given my
>marketing experience I'd have thought these valid suggestions.
>
>Oh well.
>
>--
>Regards
>Peter Cannon
>Fedora Core 4 & Suse 9.3
>
>"There is every excuse for not knowing,
>There is no excuse for not asking!"


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