[Wylug-discuss] Future meetings.........

[Simon Hickling]

> On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:27:36PM +0100, Roger Beaumont wrote:
>> Offer to speak...
> <snip>
>> Over the past 18 months or so I've taught myself enough about MySQL &
>> php to understand the manuals well enough to write 3 db-driven websites
> <snip>
>> I'd guess that there's a talk in that, which addresses some topics that
>> have been mentioned - and as an ex-FE-teacher I'm sure I could deliver
>> it.
>>
>> But...
>>
>> I'm damned if I can come up with a plan of what to cover!
>>
>> If WYLUG members could help decide the content & scope, I'd volunteer to
>> prepare and make the presentation.
> <snip>
>> Would that be of interest?
>
> Of course.  As you rightly suggest, we'd need to firm up the details,
> but at this stage _any_ offer or suggestion is welcome.
>
> My own initial feelings are:
>
>   1. That the LAMP stack is so central to Linux and open source activity
>      that we need to revisit it on a regular basis.
>
>   2. That we could probably do with at least 2 generic annual talks on
>      LAMP:
>
>      a) Getting started with dynamic (database-driven and interactive)
>         web development
>
>      b) Latest trends in LAMP and OSS web development generally
>
>         e.g. Anyone feel up to giving us a talk on AJAX?
>
>
>   3. That we need to seek a balance between:
>
>      a) Not confusing newbies with the shere range and complexity of
>         possible approaches
>
>      b) Not upsetting experienced users who are all-too-aware of the
>         dangers implicit in popular entry-level approaches
>
>         e.g. the often automatic assumption that MYSQL and PHP are
>         inextricably linked, and the poor security record of PHP sites
>         built by inexperienced programmers.
>
> My own particular hobby horse is the appallingly record of poor markup,
> poor standards-compliance, and poor usability in out-of-the-box OSS web
> development frameworks -- especially PHP-based content management
> systems (CMS).
>
> They may be no worse than the average .Net/ASP site, but that is no
> yardstick to measure yourself by.
>
> Open source is almost pointless when its practitioners trample all over
> open standards  -- these two concepts are intrinsically linked ... at
> least in my mind.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
Hi all,

I've been lurking about watching the discussions with interest for a few
months now.  I'm a developer atr a software house in Leeds, and am
currently involved in web development, including AJAX, and J2EE.  My
personal sites make use of PHP and are, I'm sure, full of the security
holes mentioned above, despite the fact I should know better.  I use PHP
and MySQL.

I have also made use of fetchmail and squirrelmail to consolidate a number
of ISPs pop3 accounts to make all my email available via webmail.

If people show interest in any of the above I'll be happy to try and put
something together.

Simon