[Wylug-discuss] Favourite FOSS apps and tools?

[John Leach]

This just goes to show: when on the Internet, you're only ever 3 posts
away from a emacs/vi argument.

John "vi man" Leach

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 09:44 +0100, Towle, William wrote:
>  >  Bonus point for Emacs because vi sucks so hard its in a constant
> state of sucking itself through itself, out the rear and then
> repeating the process. 
>  
>   Nonsense. The only reason people think vi "sucks" is because they
> haven't been taught it properly. It may be full of nuances, but in
> general they /do/ fit in with those of the other Unix tools you use in
> combination with it, and are otherwise inter-consistent - in that
> order. If you aren't comfortable with Unix in general, then fine
> - don't touch vi with someone else's bargepole: you'll never "get" it.
> On the other hand, in the hands of a reasonably proficient typer vi is
> amazing and VIm (with splittable windows, visual region selection,
> multi-level undo, ...) doubly so.
>  
>   Now I'm not saying emacs isn't also like that in its own way, but it
> makes more sense to believe Henry Spencer (to whom "those that don't
> understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it poorly" is attributed) was a
> vi user.
>  
>   Wills.
>  
> (hardware, kernel, /bin/sh; vi, find, xargs, grep, sed, sort; gcc,
> binutils, make; tar, gzip/bzip2, access to source. What more do you
> need?)

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