[YLUG] Update fedora 10

Sun Dec 21 10:09:33 UTC 2008

Try adding "nomodeset" (without the quotes) to the kernel boot line.

i.e. when you boot hit the down arrow button when grub starts. Then
press "e" and edit the kernel line by adding the word above to the end
of the line.
Then press enter and then "c" to get a grub command line. Then type
"boot" to continue the boot with the above command included.

In F10 there is kernel modesetting that works with some Radeon cards,
but this is very new and there are still some bugs in the code. It is
not the xorg driver but in the kernel itself now. By using nomodeset
this is bypassed. It is documents in the "common problems" page for
f10 that is referenced in the links I sent you yesterday. I presume
that you do not get the Plymouth graphic during the main boot but a
text mode blue and white line that goes across the bottom of the
screen during the initial boot phase?  X only starts once the main
boot is complete.

If the suggestion above works then you can edit the grub.conf file to
use nomodeset at every reboot.  If not then ask again and work from
that point.

Mike

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Patrick Dupre <pd520 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> So, I restart from scratch with a new disk !!
> I installed from the DVD, and I got a kernel 2.6.27.7-134. I looks like
> that I has been automatically upgraded. But the big problem is that I still
> cannot get the X session running. As before it frozes after I get the Fedora
> image.
> Before it was working while I supected problem with the X session:
> slow response time with some applications, no ATL-CTL working.
> My card is a Radeon RV100 QY.
> Are the xorg drivers bugged ?
> Can I choose another driver ? IF yes, how can I do it in text mode.
>
> Thank for your help.
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Patrick Dupre <pd520 at york.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, mike cloaked wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly how did you update from FC7?
>>>>
>>>> i.e. to be explicit - did you
>>>
>>> 2 weeks ago I did the update by running a yum upgrade
>>>
>>> 2 weeks ago IO updated from the DVD (anaconda): of course from the iso
>>> image.
>>>
>>> yesterday from yumex.
>>
>> Well now I am confused...
>> So you did yum upgrade initially to change your version from FC7 to
>> F10 - I don't understand whether you mean you then did some kind of
>> upgrade to that from the DVD? Or did you do a new fresh install from
>> scratch. In addition I now don't know what you did with yumex. However
>> F10 is very very different to FC7 (and note that it is F10 and not
>> FC10 even though package names are tagged wit the .fc10 suffix for
>> special reasons because Fedora packages are now part of a unified
>> Fedora Collection, and not Fedora Core as it was at the time of FC7)
>>
>> If you still have old versions of your configs lying around and did a
>> yum upgrade from version 7 to version 10 then you will almost
>> certainly get problems....I would strongly recommend that you do not
>> try to get that system working as the upgrade from 7 to 10 is too huge
>> a change.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest that you start from scratch and do an install
>> from the DVD and make sure that you ask anaconda to format the root
>> partition during that install. If you have a wired connection during
>> the install then it will automatically configure a wired interface for
>> you and NetworkManager will use it.  You can install to the root ( / )
>> partition and leave your other partitions untouched, provided you ask
>> it to do a custom disk partition when you get to that section of the
>> install.  Always make a backup of all files ahead of this in case it
>> all goes wrong - this is standard advice.
>>
>> Make sure that you read the release notes, and also the install guide for
>> F10
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/
>>
>> The install guide will also give you information on other methods for
>> the install, including hard drive and http, plus nfs installs.
>>
>> Once you have the install running, make sure you select your packages
>> and it will pull the necessary files from the DVD, and during the
>> firstboot you are asked to make a user area, and then log in to that
>> user area in gnome, then before you start configuring anything else
>> make sure you then do either:
>> yum -y update
>> or
>> use PackageKit which is now the default background process that runs
>> yum for you - and let that update your system.
>>
>> Note that by default you are unable to login as root so make sure you
>> do create a non-root user during the install.
>>
>> Then re-boot after the yum update as you will have a new kernel and
>> many other updated packages.
>>
>> Only then can you start either retrieving old user files and setting
>> up the system as you wish. At this stage you should already have a
>> working X and be logged in to a desktop.
>>
>> You can of course switch out of X to a VT if you wish to use a command
>> line only. However it is easier to open a set of terminal windows in
>> the desktop and work from there.
>>
>> Also note that by default you will have SElinux enabled and enforcing.
>> You should read about SElinux so that you can work with it.
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-user-guide/f10/en-US/
>>
>> If you feel that SElinux is too much for you then you can switch it to
>> permissive.  Note that if you disable SElinux then getting it back can
>> be quite a pain! However leaving it permissive will allow you to work
>> but you will get SElinux warnings.
>>
>>> From what you have posted it is not clear what state your system is
>>
>> in, and in this case it is very difficult for other people to offer
>> you advice. If you have a cleanly installed system and can quote
>> exactly what you did when a problem occurs and can also provide the
>> results of log files and a good description then others can try to
>> triage the problem and suggest a solution.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>
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