[Bradford] Fwd: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August

[John R Hudson]

I think we need to split the issues:

do we invite him and if so to what?

He can decide whether or not he wishes to accept the invitation.

If he accepts the invitiation, we need to treat him in the manner in which he 
considers appropriate. However, if we don't think we can treat him in that 
way, we don't give the invitation.

John
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On Friday 10 June 2011 11:53:08 Alice Kaerast wrote:
> So I have just discovered.  We can invite RMS along as individuals
> interested in free software or as a GLUG but not as a LUG.  Our
> website does describe us as a Gnu/Linux User Group, would people say
> that is accurate?  Do we just use LUG as shorthand?
> 
> Also, we'd probably need to arrange a venue for him to give a talk or
> work with Leeds.  I can talk to Leeds people at WYLUG on Monday (I
> assume that's the next WYLUG meeting?)
> 
> Alice
> 
> On 10 June 2011 11:40, Brian <bradlug at techchico.org.uk> wrote:
> > If we do try it may be wise to take heed of the content in some
> > paragraphs I have pasted below from Wikipedia. In a nutshell it appears
> > that he is very strict on terminology.
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > Quote:
> > 
> > One of his criteria for giving an interview to a journalist is that the
> > journalist agree to use his terminology throughout the article.[53]
> > Sometimes he has even required journalists to read parts of the GNU
> > philosophy before an interview, for "efficiency's sake".[citation needed]
> > He has been known to turn down speaking requests over some terminology
> > issues.[54]
> > 
> > Stallman rejects a common alternative term, open source software, because
> > it does not call to mind what Stallman sees as the value of the
> > software: freedom.[55] Thus it will not inform people of the freedom
> > issues, and will not lead to people valuing and defending their
> > freedom.[56] Two alternatives which Stallman does accept are software
> > libre and unfettered software, but free software is the term he asks
> > people to use in English. For similar reasons, he argues for the term
> > "proprietary software" rather than "closed source software", when
> > referring to software that is not free software.
> > 
> > Stallman repeatedly asks that the term GNU/Linux, which he pronounces
> > "GNU slash Linux", be used to refer to the operating system created by
> > combining the GNU system and the Linux kernel. Stallman refers to this
> > operating system as "a variant of GNU, and the GNU Project is its
> > principal developer."[54] He claims that the connection between the GNU
> > project's philosophy and its software is broken when people refer to the
> > combination as merely Linux.[57] Starting around 2003, he began also
> > using the term GNU+Linux, which he pronounces "GNU plus Linux".
> > 
> > Stallman argues that the term intellectual property is designed to
> > confuse people, and is used to prevent intelligent discussion on the
> > specifics of copyright, patent, trademark and other laws by lumping
> > together areas of law that are more dissimilar than similar.[58] He also
> > argues that by referring to these laws as property laws, the term biases
> > the discussion when thinking about how to treat these issues.
> > 
> > Unquote.
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dick Thomas <xpd259 at gmail.com>
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> > Sent: Sun, 5 June, 2011 21:02:33
> > Subject: [Bradford] Fwd: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August
> > 
> > Should we try?
> > 
> > Dick Thomas
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Michael Dorrington" <michael.dorrington at gmail.com>
> > Date: Jun 5, 2011 8:41 PM
> > Subject: [lugmaster] RMS visit in August
> > To: "A closed discussion list for UK LUGMasters."
> > <lugmaster at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > 
> > Richard Stallman (aka RMS), founder of the Free Software Foundation
> > (FSF), GNU's Not Unix (GNU) and the Free Software Movement is in
> > Edinburgh on 26th-28th August and can give a few speeches in other
> > places in the UK before this. If you have a good venue for him then
> > please let me know and I'll pass it on.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Mike.
> > 
> > 
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