[Lancaster] GNU

[Serko Katsikian]

Let's not start a flame war here now :). I myself disagree with RMS's 
tactics sometimes, though I am a big fan of his cause and his 
consistency as a person who believes in his ideals. No matter our 
individual point of view, I think we agree that we should promote both 
gnu and linux in the website do we not?

Serko

Gareth Lees wrote:
> I agree that we *should* be giving GNU the credit that they deserve, however, I do not believe that the way Richard Stallman is acting is at all appropriate, may I point this out as an example:
>
> http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#trademarkfee
>
> He states that if you wish to save the fee associated with 'Linux' then calling the system 'GNU' is acceptable, therefore stealing all the thunder where Linus should have some.
>
> Never forget: One man's freedom begins where another man's freedom ends.
>
> Gareth
>
> On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:52, Serko Katsikian wrote:
>
>   
>> I think it is important to give Gnu the credit they deserve Gareth. I 
>> don't think Stallman has ever denied Linus's contribution to the overall 
>> gnu/linux system, but he and the people who have worked on the gnu tools 
>> for years deserve similar recognition. By not using the word "gnu" in 
>> linux, sooner or later newer generations will grow up never having heard 
>> of "gnu" and never realising that Linux would probably not be here if it 
>> weren't for Gnu.
>>
>> By the way, if you guys are interested read this article by RMS
>>
>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
>>
>> cheers
>> Serko
>>
>>
>> Gareth Lees wrote:
>>     
>>> My issue is not with the request per se, it is with the bitterness that oozes through on the FAQ page, like the idea of 'Linux' is wrong, 'GNU/Linux' is right as is 'GNU', if he wants credit then make it just as unacceptable to deny Linus Torvalds of his credit for arguably the most important part of the system: the kernel (or the Operating System itself without the GNU ancillaries.)
>>>
>>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:43, Wayne Ward wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> no it deserves a say my friend i been reading into this a lot lately -  
>>>> i cant see the harm in mentioning the GNU at all?
>>>>
>>>> wayne
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:38, Gareth Lees wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Tell him that we damn well want freedom without his silly naming  
>>>>> restrictions. (Wonders how one would go about making a Linux  
>>>>> Distribution using no GNU stuff.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously though, Linux is now a general short form for GNU/Linux  
>>>>> and just because GNU isn't named doesn't mean that we don't value  
>>>>> their work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 16:34, Wayne Ward wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> hi guys just been talking to richard stallman the founder of the gnu
>>>>>> and he has taken a look at the site and would like us to change some
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> to add some gnu info etc - so ill make some small changes tonight
>>>>>> ill get him to take a look after just nice to know we are getting
>>>>>> input from one of the top level guys :)
>>>>>> Take a look at his site some great info http://stallman.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here are the guidelines he wants me to look at
>>>>>> http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne Ward
>>>>>>
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