[Liverpool] Best buy and Firefox

Tue Sep 8 16:00:23 UTC 2009

I still haven't read all of the mammoth thread about browsers and Windows 7
yet (saving that for a quiet night hehe), but the topic of Firefox has come
up in a few LUG meetings. It seems a few people don't like it. For my money
I love Firefox and use it 90% of the time I'm on a computer. I'm using it
now to write this.

Not trying to start any more arguments, just thought I'd register my
position on the subject. I'm sure you were dying to know that really. See
you all at the next meeting I hope :)

Ta

Dan

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Paul Leech <pleech at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe bestbuy could add, don't try Linux as the browser experience is
> rubbish, buy Windows 7 instead!
>
> Firefox is a splendid application and should be supported as should all
> open source endeavours.
>
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:01:56 +0100
>> From: Simon Johnson <simon.johnson at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
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>> Sounds like a good idea.
>>
>> Any Saturday (except this one) is good with me.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> 2009/9/8 Will Noakes <wnoakes at yahoo.com>
>>
>> > sorry can't make it this saturday, going to a rave in the Williamson's
>> > Tunnels :D
>> >
>> > Will
>> >
>> > 2009/9/8 Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>> >
>> >>  At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations
>> and
>> >> such, The Welkin, while cheap is a bit of a trek away.
>> >>
>> >> So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!
>> >>
>> >> While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?
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>> From: dmail <dmail00 at gmail.com>
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>> >    1. Re: Bestbuy's Linux training (Vladimir)
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>> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:52:35 +0100
>> > From: Vladimir <vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training
>> > To: Liverpool Linux User Group <liverpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>> > shame the screenshots there are not available :(
>> >
>> > 2009/9/8 Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> When Microsoft are spreading the FUD at retail level, how can Linux
>> >>> defend itself? Jo public is looking at the "experts" at retail stores
>> to
>> >>> direct their purchases, we've already seen this happen with the fight
>> >>> over Linux vs. Windows netbooks.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Andrew Williams
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> I read this yesterday and it's pretty sickening. They're saying that
>> >> Windows is more secure than Linux because it gets regular security
>> updates.
>> >> Regular?! Once a month on patch Tuesday, really regular that. Most
>> Linux
>> >> distros get almost daily updates. They also seem to argue it's more
>> secure
>> >> because there are anti-virus & malware products available for Windows
>> from
>> >> large vendors. Completely ignoring the fact you don't need those things
>> on
>> >> Linux. They are still available if you want them, ClamAV etc.
>> >>
>> >> It's not hard to see why the "experts" in most shops are so full of
>> shit
>> >> with training programs like this. The whole "take our brainwashing
>> course
>> >> and get a cheap copy of Windows" approach bothers me as well. Typical
>> MS
>> >> buying people off with bribes and spreading their misinformation.
>> >>
>> >> I'm glad someone brought this to light. How much else is out there that
>> we
>> >> don't know about though? The mind boggles.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:15:57 +0100
>> From: Joanne Roberts <jo at thatgirl.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
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>> You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/8 Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>>
>> > At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations and
>> > such, The Welkin, while cheap is a bit of a trek away.
>> >
>> > So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!
>> >
>> > While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andrew Williams
>> > w: http://tensixtyone.com/
>> > e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com
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>> From: Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
>> To: jo at thatgirl.co.uk,  Liverpool Linux User Group
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>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Joanne Roberts <jo at thatgirl.co.uk> wrote:
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>> > You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>> >
>>
>> Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this
>> Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm off
>> to
>> America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next
>> week
>> is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me know
>> and I'll do my best to get there :)
>>
>> While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not
>> convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a
>> Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it
>> never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG
>> watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar in
>> town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs which
>> is
>> bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of
>> streets
>> over.
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:27:02 +0100
>> From: Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training
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>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Vladimir <vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
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>> > shame the screenshots there are not available :(
>> >
>>
>> Oh I hadn't looked at the actual link Andy posted. I was sent a link to a
>> mirror of that thread complete with screenshots yesterday. They will only
>> wind you up trust me, pure FUD, but here you go -
>>
>> http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html
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>> Scroll down past all the blatant advertising at the top.
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:35:37 +0100
>> From: Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
>> To: jo at thatgirl.co.uk,  Liverpool Linux User Group
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>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:15:57PM +0100, Joanne Roberts wrote:
>> > You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>>
>> This isnt a daytime activity :)
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>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:43:44 +0100
>> From: Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
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>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:23:25PM +0100, Dan Lynch wrote:
>> > Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this
>> > Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm off
>> to
>> > America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next
>> week
>> > is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me
>> know
>> > and I'll do my best to get there :)
>> >
>> > While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not
>> > convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a
>> > Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it
>> > never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG
>> > watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar
>> in
>> > town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs which
>> is
>> > bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of
>> streets
>> > over.
>>
>> Good point, I think we'll need to pre-arrange as from what I remember
>> 3345 is a members club. Its simple and free to signup but it presents
>> problems if we have non members turning up. I dunno, I know Geekup hold
>> their meets there so I guess it'll be a case of mailing them.
>>
>> --
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