[Liverpool] Best buy and Firefox

Vladimir vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com
Tue Sep 8 18:38:41 UTC 2009


once again, as i said: on my gentoo and suse boxes firefox rarely uses more
than 170-230mb of virtual memory (systems have 4gb and 512mb of physical ram
respectively). so it makes it an ultimate cross-platform extensible browser
for me :)
.v

2009/9/8 Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>

> I still haven't read all of the mammoth thread about browsers and Windows 7
> yet (saving that for a quiet night hehe), but the topic of Firefox has come
> up in a few LUG meetings. It seems a few people don't like it. For my money
> I love Firefox and use it 90% of the time I'm on a computer. I'm using it
> now to write this.
>
> Not trying to start any more arguments, just thought I'd register my
> position on the subject. I'm sure you were dying to know that really. See
> you all at the next meeting I hope :)
>
> Ta
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Paul Leech <pleech at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe bestbuy could add, don't try Linux as the browser experience is
>> rubbish, buy Windows 7 instead!
>>
>> Firefox is a splendid application and should be supported as should all
>> open source endeavours.
>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:01:56 +0100
>>> From: Simon Johnson <simon.johnson at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
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>>> Sounds like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Any Saturday (except this one) is good with me.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> 2009/9/8 Will Noakes <wnoakes at yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> > sorry can't make it this saturday, going to a rave in the Williamson's
>>> > Tunnels :D
>>> >
>>> > Will
>>> >
>>> > 2009/9/8 Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>>> >
>>> >>  At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations
>>> and
>>> >> such, The Welkin, while cheap is a bit of a trek away.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!
>>> >>
>>> >> While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Andrew Williams
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>>> > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:52:35 +0100
>>> > From: Vladimir <vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training
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>>> > shame the screenshots there are not available :(
>>> >
>>> > 2009/9/8 Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Williams <
>>> andy at tensixtyone.com>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> When Microsoft are spreading the FUD at retail level, how can Linux
>>> >>> defend itself? Jo public is looking at the "experts" at retail stores
>>> to
>>> >>> direct their purchases, we've already seen this happen with the fight
>>> >>> over Linux vs. Windows netbooks.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Andrew Williams
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >> I read this yesterday and it's pretty sickening. They're saying that
>>> >> Windows is more secure than Linux because it gets regular security
>>> updates.
>>> >> Regular?! Once a month on patch Tuesday, really regular that. Most
>>> Linux
>>> >> distros get almost daily updates. They also seem to argue it's more
>>> secure
>>> >> because there are anti-virus & malware products available for Windows
>>> from
>>> >> large vendors. Completely ignoring the fact you don't need those
>>> things on
>>> >> Linux. They are still available if you want them, ClamAV etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's not hard to see why the "experts" in most shops are so full of
>>> shit
>>> >> with training programs like this. The whole "take our brainwashing
>>> course
>>> >> and get a cheap copy of Windows" approach bothers me as well. Typical
>>> MS
>>> >> buying people off with bribes and spreading their misinformation.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm glad someone brought this to light. How much else is out there
>>> that we
>>> >> don't know about though? The mind boggles.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:15:57 +0100
>>> From: Joanne Roberts <jo at thatgirl.co.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
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>>> You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/9/8 Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>>>
>>> > At the last meeting we had the usual discussion about pub locations and
>>> > such, The Welkin, while cheap is a bit of a trek away.
>>> >
>>> > So, maybe time for a LUG pub crawl, to find a new local watering hole!
>>> >
>>> > While short notice, would anyone be up for it this Saturday?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Andrew Williams
>>> > w: http://tensixtyone.com/
>>> > e: andy (at) tensixtyone.com
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:23:25 +0100
>>> From: Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
>>> To: jo at thatgirl.co.uk,  Liverpool Linux User Group
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>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Joanne Roberts <jo at thatgirl.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>>> >
>>>
>>> Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this
>>> Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm off
>>> to
>>> America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next
>>> week
>>> is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me
>>> know
>>> and I'll do my best to get there :)
>>>
>>> While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not
>>> convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a
>>> Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it
>>> never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG
>>> watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar
>>> in
>>> town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs which
>>> is
>>> bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of
>>> streets
>>> over.
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:27:02 +0100
>>> From: Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] Bestbuy's Linux training
>>> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <liverpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Vladimir <
>>> vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > shame the screenshots there are not available :(
>>> >
>>>
>>> Oh I hadn't looked at the actual link Andy posted. I was sent a link to a
>>> mirror of that thread complete with screenshots yesterday. They will only
>>> wind you up trust me, pure FUD, but here you go -
>>>
>>> http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html
>>>
>>> Scroll down past all the blatant advertising at the top.
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:35:37 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
>>> To: jo at thatgirl.co.uk,  Liverpool Linux User Group
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>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:15:57PM +0100, Joanne Roberts wrote:
>>> > You're not even available this saturday Andy!
>>>
>>> This isnt a daytime activity :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Williams
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:43:44 +0100
>>> From: Andrew Williams <andy at tensixtyone.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Liverpool] LUGCrawl?
>>> To: Liverpool Linux User Group <liverpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:23:25PM +0100, Dan Lynch wrote:
>>> > Oh god that's funny :D Nice one Andy. I'm not sure I could make it this
>>> > Saturday but that seems academic now as neither can anyone else. I'm
>>> off to
>>> > America next Friday for LinuxCon (any excuse to mention that), so next
>>> week
>>> > is out and probably the one after. If you can decide on a date let me
>>> know
>>> > and I'll do my best to get there :)
>>> >
>>> > While I'm not against going out on a Saturday night (at all), I'm not
>>> > convinced it will help us to decide which pub would be quietest on a
>>> > Thursday night. I've just had a thought actually and I can't believe it
>>> > never occurred to me before. We could use 3345 on Parr St as a post LUG
>>> > watering hole. It's got free wi-fi and everything. Not the cheapest bar
>>> in
>>> > town but not extortionate either. There's also Studio 2 downstairs
>>> which is
>>> > bigger and very nice. Not too far to walk from LSC. Just a couple of
>>> streets
>>> > over.
>>>
>>> Good point, I think we'll need to pre-arrange as from what I remember
>>> 3345 is a members club. Its simple and free to signup but it presents
>>> problems if we have non members turning up. I dunno, I know Geekup hold
>>> their meets there so I guess it'll be a case of mailing them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Williams
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