[Liverpool] Linux on ARM

oscillik oscillik at gmail.com
Fri Oct 8 15:44:29 UTC 2010


again, the N900 would fill most of what you seem to want here. it's just
that Maemo 5 does have it's caveats, and the alternative options available
all have their own caveats too. Maemo 5 even has a fully integrated SIP
client.

On 8 October 2010 16:35, Sebastian <shop at open-t.co.uk> wrote:

> In many ways (and I know this might just start a flame war - but bear with
> me) I am thinking that Android is nowhere near what *I* would have hoped
> from a Linux based os for portable devices.
>
> I do understand the need for phone manufacturers and networks to lock these
> devices down - to minimise costs. But strictly from a technical perspective,
> I am looking forward to a device which is truly shrunken down computer.
> Smaller size, long battery, but still the same level of connectivity and
> compatibility of an x86 based Linux machine. Even if it would only be a
> small tablet form (but with 3g data link integrated and access to a good sip
> client) which works on a standard platform - so that devices from 10, 20 or
> 50 different manufactures can be upgraded with the same
> distribution/software set - that would be really good. Otherwise the
> community effort will have to be really fragmented, each project working to
> support the vagaries of each ARM micro-platform - be it NSLU's, various
> tablets, mini-gaming console or anything else. The community development and
> support of these ARM devices would surely be far more effective if all of
> them would be based on the same booting method, same firmware upgrade method
> etc.
>
> Well, a bit rhetorical really.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> On 10/08/2010 02:00 PM, Ste wrote:
>
>> On 08/10/2010 13:56, Sebastian wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Graeme. In a sense that is an answer to my question. I have
>>> installed Linux on some NSLUs a while ago (which are ARM based). I
>>> know it can be done in many cases. I was just wondering if there will
>>> ever be some sort of universal method which will work on all of them.
>>> I guess you have already answered that - the short answer is no.
>>>
>>> Well, one can keep on hoping. I guess until that will be that case, I
>>> don't see ARM breaking out of the 'device' type market, into the
>>> general computing market - where x86 is. Not that the 'device' market
>>> is not lucrative, or large enough, or fairly useful to all of us as it
>>> is now :-)
>>>
>>
>> I think a best-case scenario would be if every arm-based
>> tablet/phone/device could boot into a standard 'recovery' mode (by
>> holding down a 2nd button when powering the device on, for example) - in
>> which, you'd be able to flash the on-board storage with either an image
>> on an attached USB stick, or over a USB connection to a host running
>> something similar to android's 'adb' thingy which you get with the
>> development kit. These images would all be nice and standard, like how
>> bootable CDs are made with .iso files now.
>>
>> Hands up if you can see this ever happening!
>>
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