[SLUG] Scarborough Apple Users Group 8-)

Gavin Baker gav at supercowpowers.org
Fri Aug 22 09:59:16 BST 2003


On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 23:05, Carl.Dixon wrote

> This is "Guy with really flashy laptop" as Gav put it, but you can call me 
> Carl.

Hi Carl :)

> First of all I would like to say cheers to everyone who went to the LUG 
> meeting last Tuesday for welcoming me into the group, despite me corrupting 
> several other members with the Apple stuff. Now Jamie's buying an iBook the 
> Mac users will soon be in the majority. SLUG will soon be SAUG!

It was great to see a new face (2 actually) and I'm glad to hear we
didn't scare ya off ;) 

Apple hardware is fantastic. Linux loves it. 

> <snip>

> Someone asked me about Linux on the 68k processor. You can get Debian, MkLinux 
> OpenBSD and NetBSD (if that counts). I thought that there were more but can't 
> find any others. Of all the ISOs you can download, I can't see any that don't 
> require an MMU so getting it onto my Powerbook 540C could be tricky. Debian 
> needs 16mb RAM too (I only have 12) and on the 160MB hard drive there would 
> only be room for a minimal console-based system (not even enough room for 
> Emacs OS!).

Ahh of course, MkLinux. I forgot about that one. (obsd/nbsd don't use
linux kernels of course).

You can get linux to run on MMU-less[1] machines with patches from
uClinux[2] (an embedded kernel). It would be a grand pain in the ass
though, as the patches are against 2.5.x kernels, and you would have to
cross compile a new kernel from an existing Linux install on a different
machine. You can't run linux on it, so you can't compile a new kernel on
it.. chicken..egg.

I knew I had read about MMU-less Linux recently somewhere though.

[1] http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt20021028_190.html#16
[2] http://www.uClinux.org

> Chris mentioned maybe having the next LUG meeting before I got back to Uni on 
> the 14th September. If that is okay with everyone I would appreciate it. I 
> would like to see everyone again before I go as I told lots of people I'd get 
> them distros/software/music/find out how to turn their pooters off, and it 
> will be the last one I can attend until Xmas.

I'm going to Madrid on the 3rd sept for a couple of weeks, so I probably
won't see you before christmas. So, errm, Merry Christmas! :)

Gav
 

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Gavin Baker <gav at supercowpowers.org>





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