[Blackpool] Missing Pinterest Button saga....

Wed Feb 4 09:17:41 UTC 2015

Good idea.  For me a visual image with arrows pointing from stage to stage  would hit home really well if that could be possible! 

BTW  temps in early email were celsius!  Don't know what I was thinking about!

Elizabeth

From: arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
To: elizabethcoop1945 at hotmail.co.uk; blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Missing Pinterest Button saga....
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:11:49 +0000

Hiya,
Maybe there is room for a 15 min talk/demo on how the internet basically works?  From ip addresses, DNS, routing, maybe have a html server on the our network serve up a page by hitting it by its ip directly etc.  It's not that technical really and helpful to know I think.

I'd do it but there are more knowledgeable people here...  anyone?

A

From: elizabethcoop1945 at hotmail.co.uk
To: arthur_garlick at hotmail.com; blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Missing Pinterest Button saga....
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:37:54 +0000

Hi Arthur

Thank you so much for this.  I haven't understood what it's all about (anything new there?) but I do appreciate your thoughts.

It still isn't working so will bring laptop again & maybe we can have another go.  

The warmest place we found was in Benidorm - we got a good deal, irresistable!  It was 26* deg F the day before we left.... 17* when we left at 7.15 in the morning.... sigh.....  Now I'm wrapped up in countless thermals!!!

Hope to see you soon. (the 14th is a no-goer for me though)

Elizabeth

From: arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
To: elizabethcoop1945 at hotmail.co.uk; blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Missing Pinterest Button saga....
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:24:27 +0000

Hiya,
This guy seems thorough, my thought on Saturday when it worked was to have a go with traceroute, but as I don't think that would lead to an actual fix I didn't bother.  Regretting that now as I think it might have been interesting.

Traceroute  just tells you the route of your internet request, there is an internet request behind that button and you'll probably be able to see it by looking at the code behind the button in the page source (you need to have the button working).  Doing the traceroute where it works and where it doesn't work and comparing might tell you where in the request the thing fails.  I don't know how good traceroute on Linux is, I guess it's driven by beards and will be very good.  If not there are online ping/traceroute tools.  

Hope you found somewhere warmer to go.

Regards

Arthur

> From: elizabethcoop1945 at hotmail.co.uk
> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:11:26 +0000
> Subject: [Blackpool] Missing Pinterest Button saga....
> 
> Hi All
> 
> Because I'm going away tonight I asked a fellow eBid chap (Ian) to have a look at this problem.
> 
> He has posted his results on Forum so I will append them here in case anyone might find it interesting.....
> 
> Just for information:  my user name on eBid is Cheaver and a PM is a Private Message capable of being sent to members via the eBid Forum. The "whole lot of missing Forum Buttons" means there should be at least 6 of them! eg Facebook; Twitter; Stumbleupon; Tumblr etc etc so all were missing, not just the Pinterest button.
> 
> Elizabeth (aka cheaver!)
> 
> Ian's efforts:
> 
> Well I was doing some research on this and have a few ideas in mind.
> 
> 
> 
> First of all I have the missing Pinterest thing here and not in my Ebid. I use Chrome, so this is not Firefox specific
> 
> 
> 
> It does suggest something external to eBid.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheaver has a machine which loses the button at home but not when at her
>  UG. The difference here will  be the ISP, I assume this temporarily.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, Cheaver has another machine with identical OS etc which is totally 
> unaffected using the same setup. She uses Firefox on both machines. I 
> must assume that it both cases it is the same version of Firefox  in all respects.
> 
> 
> 
> I ran a test on a laptop which normally runs W7 with a twin core Intel 
> processor , 500 Gb HD and 4Gb ram - a fairly standard setup. Under 
> Chrome I get the correct buttons in my ebid and am missing Pinterest in 
> these forums. Using the USB OS trick I've mentioned before, I booted 
> into a very high security version of a Linux system with a special high 
> security browser. Logging into eBid I could see the buttons in my Ebid, 
> and I could have used them. However there were no buttons at all visible
>  in the forums. The whole lot had gone. In fact the browser would not 
> let me PM  Cheaver from within this forum. In other words the forum 
> software is a high security risk. Ebid's own "face to the world" is very
>  well protected.
> 
> 
> 
> My thoughts so far? Something has changed in the security field. 
> Constant threats mean that ISP's are frequently changing their filters 
> to protect both themselves and users. Some of the filters provided may 
> well react slightly differently depending upon the combination of CPU, 
> OS and browser involved. AV filters sometimes react differently 
> according to these factors as well.
> 
> 
> 
> Later this evening I shall load Chrome into my very secure OS to see what happens then.
> 
> 
> 
> So far as I can determine the "block" is external to eBid and the forum,
>  and minor variations between individual machines are to be expected. 
> Although interesting and, perhaps infuriating to some members, I doubt 
> if there is a universal "fix" that will preserve security. Personally I 
> have not gained any eBid "brownie points" through the social media as I 
> consider them to be such a security risk I have not used them as yet.
> 
> 
> 
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