[Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015

Olly Clark olly at ollyclark.org
Fri Jul 3 15:00:51 UTC 2015


With your AirCon on right!!!  Seriously just been doing abit of Forum 
trawling and it appears there's quite a spread of running temps, the 
advice seems to be, don't be overly concerned unless it exceeds 90 
Degrees, then put something thick between it and your groin ;-)

Olly

On 03/07/15 15:54, Les Pounder wrote:
> Core i5 driving two screens and watching iplayer while working
>
> 64c
>
> Les
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org 
> <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>
>     James,
>
>     Just checked my CPU temps, my cores are running at 59 and 60
>     degrees C and I'm running in power saving as I have a low battery,
>     so it may not be that out of the ordinary!!
>
>     Olly
>
>
>     On 03/07/15 15:43, Arthur Garlick wrote:
>
>         I recall that these processing state % are not necessarily
>         linked to the processor frequency and voltage in a linear
>         fashion (pretty sure they aren't in fact and the processors
>         step down in voltage and freq in steps, so it's a case of
>         knowing what that processor does).
>           80% might not have done anything at all to the processor
>         freq and voltage.  Maybe there was a small change made going
>         to 99% from 100% and then nothing until you drop a lot more.
>         It might be that for that processor the step down doesn't
>         happen until 79% and the next step down at 50% etc.
>           It's particular to each intel processor?
>
>             Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0100
>             From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com <mailto:jmsp.1983 at gmail.com>
>             To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>             <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>             Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
>
>             Ay carumba! All those replies!
>
>              From memory...
>
>             Disassembly - I've stripped the laptop down before to try
>             to remove dust
>             and fluff etc, so I'm fairly comfortable with that. I
>             haven't removed the
>             heatsink and fan, though, and I haven't removed/applied
>             thermal paste
>             before, so that's where I'm wanting to be more cautious.
>
>             Laptop - it's a Dell Studio 1558 running an i7 720QM. It's
>             been running
>             warmer than usual for a good few months now - just
>             browsing or using Word
>             it will run at ~65 degrees. If it gets busy it will run
>             into the 70s. I had
>             its maximum processing state set to 85% (I've reduced it
>             to 80% this
>             afternoon). I use BatteryCare to manage and monitor power
>             settings,
>             particularly as Speedfan freezes the laptop whenever I've
>             tried it.
>
>             Preparation - I have Arctic Silver thermal paste and a
>             bottle of
>             isopropanol (shots all round if the procedure is a success!).
>
>             I'll probably drop in around 11ish.
>
>
>
>
>             Best wishes,
>             James
>
>             On 3 July 2015 at 14:50, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>             <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>
>                 Doesn't seem too bad, we can probably do abit of
>                 diagnostics on it first
>                 before we take it apart
>
>                 NB mine is running alittle hotter than normal at the
>                 moment due to the
>                 heat, so it's normal.
>
>                 Olly
>
>                 On 03/07/15 14:46, Les Pounder wrote:
>
>                     IIRC James has a Dell 1735/1737 laptop like my beast!
>
>                     Here is the service manual for the CPU cooling.
>
>
>                     http://blog.parts-people.com/2011/12/05/dell-studio-17-17351737-cpu-cooling-fan-removal-and-installation/
>
>                     Les
>
>                     On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Olly Clark
>                     <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>                     <mailto:
>                     olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
>                     wrote:
>
>
>
>
>                          -------- Forwarded Message --------
>                          Subject:        RE: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>                     July 2015
>                          Date:   Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:38:40 +0100
>                          From:   Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>>
>                          To:     Arthur Garlick
>                     <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>                          <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>>
>                          CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>                          <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>                          <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>>
>
>
>
>                          If memory serves me James it's an Intel Core
>                     2 Duo laptop isn't
>                          it?  When you say it's running hot, how hot
>                     are we talking? The
>                          BIOS should give you some temperatures, plus
>                     there are a couple of
>                          free apps you can use to monitor CPU and
>                     motherboard temps, maybe
>                          worth playing around with those tomorrow.
>
>                          Regards
>
>                          Olly
>
>
>                          On 3 Jul 2015 14:29, Arthur Garlick
>                     <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>                          <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>                             My 2p is:  Don't take the laptop apart yet!
>
>                             Take a look at the "maximum processor
>                     state" setting and experiment
>                             with turning it down (assuming it's
>                     Windoze, but I am sure
>                          Linux has
>                             a similar tweak).
>
>                             You haven't overclocked it and forgotten
>                     have you?!!
>
>
>
>                             A
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                              > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +0100
>                              > From: olly at ollyclark.org
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
>                     <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>
>                              > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>                          <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>                     <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>                              > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>                     July 2015
>                              >
>                              > Hi James,
>                              >
>                              > I'll be there tomorrow, I don't mind
>                     helping you take your
>                          laptop
>                             if you
>                              > want, do you have any thermal paste and
>                     rubbing alcohol?
>                              >
>                              > Regards
>                              >
>                              > Olly
>                              >
>                              > On 02/07/15 17:01, James Page wrote:
>                              > > I think I need to stick some new
>                     thermal paste on my laptop's
>                             CPU. Cleaning
>                              > > out the vents etc hasn't helped to
>                     decrease the running temp.
>                             Will there be
>                              > > anybody around who could guide me
>                     through it? It's not
>                             something I've done
>                              > > before.
>                              > >
>                              > >
>                              > >
>                              > >
>                              > > Best wishes,
>                              > > James
>                              > >
>                              > > On 2 July 2015 at 13:02, Arthur Garlick
>                             <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
>                          <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>                     <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>> wrote:
>                              > >
>                              > >> Hi,I've just been asked to help out
>                     on a Scout camp this
>                             Saturday so won't
>                              > >> be there :o(.
>                              > >> It's been too hot to be indoors
>                     hacking this week. I've been
>                             in my garden
>                              > >> trying to get as far as I can
>                     hacking the tree stumps and
>                             roots before
>                              > >> deploying the chemical warfare.
>                              > >> It's bad form to use a chainsaw on
>                     anything but clean wood,
>                             even if you
>                              > >> powerwash the roots the grit remains
>                     and ruins the chain, a
>                             man should look
>                              > >> after his tools and the chain can
>                     pickup something sharp and
>                             fling it at
>                              > >> your head... But the convenience and
>                     speed of a chainsaw
>                          makes
>                             cutting a
>                              > >> stump out a lot less of a chore
>                     (actually it becomes an
>                             enjoyable job!). I
>                              > >> was doing this with two expensive
>                     chains and sharpening the
>                             chains between
>                              > >> runs last year, which is tedious and
>                     it doesn't take long
>                             before the grit
>                              > >> ruins the way the chains run in the
>                     saw and they have to be
>                             dumped anyway.
>                              > >> Cheap Chinese goods to the rescue
>                     yet again, at £5 a pop
>                          for a
>                             new chain it
>                              > >> makes it economical to use the
>                     chainsaw (it's still scarily
>                             unsafe though,
>                              > >> plenty of protection req'd). I have
>                     two cheapo chains and I'm
>                             still on the
>                              > >> first one, I'll probably resharpen
>                     them once and then dump
>                             them as running
>                              > >> them too long is probably damaging
>                     the saw itself.
>                              > >>
>                              > >> After looking at the Makerspace
>                     progress I had another
>                          look at
>                             my lower
>                              > >> ground floor space and decided I am
>                     going to do a proper job
>                             same as Mike.
>                              > >> I'll take the walls down to brick,
>                     tanking slurry, 25mm of
>                             insulation,
>                              > >> battens and probably I will go for
>                     OSB walls in this
>                          workshop.
>                             Floor is
>                              > >> screeded, I have read that should go
>                     back down to the
>                          concrete
>                             slab for the
>                              > >> tanking slurry to really bond in. I
>                     don't have any major damp
>                             issues in
>                              > >> this room and I'm loath to take out
>                     the screeded floor as
>                          it's
>                             quite well
>                              > >> done. So I won't get a good tanking
>                     fillet between the wall
>                             brickwork and
>                              > >> floor (I believe the tanking will
>                     not bond in with the
>                             screeded floor but I
>                              > >> will come it from the wall for about
>                     a metre with the tanking
>                             anyway). I
>                              > >> am thinking of using the sheet you
>                     use to tank a shower
>                             wetroom to overlap
>                              > >> the wall/floor join by a metre or
>                     so. 25mm foam insulation on
>                             the floor on
>                              > >> top of the wetroom style tanking
>                     sheet and a floating
>                             chipboard floor.
>                              > >> Door frames will stay as is, most
>                     people including myself
>                          will
>                             fit under
>                              > >> them without having to duck! OSB
>                     walls will be a great base
>                             for a shelving
>                              > >> and storage system. It's not a
>                     massive space so the costs
>                             won't mount up.
>                              > >>
>                              > >> I will be at Preston Raspberry Jam
>                     with my soldering iron
>                             helping out
>                              > >> younglings with a soldering project.
>                     I have promised someone
>                             I'll have the
>                              > >> ESP8266 project done and written up
>                     on the blog by then
>                          too...
>                             we'll see
>                              > >> how that goes.
>                              > >>
>                              > >> Regards
>                              > >> Arthur
>                              > >>> From: mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>                     <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>
>                          <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>                     <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>>
>                              > >>> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
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>                          <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
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>                              > >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:49:22 +0100
>                              > >>> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th
>                     July 2015
>                              > >>>
>                              > >>> Tyldesley Road will be open as
>                     usual Saturday from 10am.
>                              > >>>
>                              > >>> Best regards
>                              > >>>
>                              > >>> Mike Hull
>                              > >>>
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