[Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015

Les Pounder lespounder at gmail.com
Fri Jul 3 14:54:58 UTC 2015


Core i5 driving two screens and watching iplayer while working

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Les

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org> wrote:

> James,
>
> Just checked my CPU temps, my cores are running at 59 and 60 degrees C and
> I'm running in power saving as I have a low battery, so it may not be that
> out of the ordinary!!
>
> Olly
>
>
> On 03/07/15 15:43, Arthur Garlick wrote:
>
>> I recall that these processing state % are not necessarily linked to the
>> processor frequency and voltage in a linear fashion (pretty sure they
>> aren't in fact and the processors step down in voltage and freq in steps,
>> so it's a case of knowing what that processor does).
>>   80% might not have done anything at all to the processor freq and
>> voltage.  Maybe there was a small change made going to 99% from 100% and
>> then nothing until you drop a lot more. It might be that for that processor
>> the step down doesn't happen until 79% and the next step down at 50% etc.
>>   It's particular to each intel processor?
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0100
>>> From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com
>>> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>
>>> Ay carumba! All those replies!
>>>
>>>  From memory...
>>>
>>> Disassembly - I've stripped the laptop down before to try to remove dust
>>> and fluff etc, so I'm fairly comfortable with that. I haven't removed the
>>> heatsink and fan, though, and I haven't removed/applied thermal paste
>>> before, so that's where I'm wanting to be more cautious.
>>>
>>> Laptop - it's a Dell Studio 1558 running an i7 720QM. It's been running
>>> warmer than usual for a good few months now - just browsing or using Word
>>> it will run at ~65 degrees. If it gets busy it will run into the 70s. I
>>> had
>>> its maximum processing state set to 85% (I've reduced it to 80% this
>>> afternoon). I use BatteryCare to manage and monitor power settings,
>>> particularly as Speedfan freezes the laptop whenever I've tried it.
>>>
>>> Preparation - I have Arctic Silver thermal paste and a bottle of
>>> isopropanol (shots all round if the procedure is a success!).
>>>
>>> I'll probably drop in around 11ish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> James
>>>
>>> On 3 July 2015 at 14:50, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Doesn't seem too bad, we can probably do abit of diagnostics on it first
>>>> before we take it apart
>>>>
>>>> NB mine is running alittle hotter than normal at the moment due to the
>>>> heat, so it's normal.
>>>>
>>>> Olly
>>>>
>>>> On 03/07/15 14:46, Les Pounder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  IIRC James has a Dell 1735/1737 laptop like my beast!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the service manual for the CPU cooling.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.parts-people.com/2011/12/05/dell-studio-17-17351737-cpu-cooling-fan-removal-and-installation/
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org
>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>> olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>      Subject:        RE: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>>>      Date:   Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:38:40 +0100
>>>>>      From:   Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org
>>>>> >>
>>>>>      To:     Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>>>      <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>
>>>>>      CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>>>      <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>>>      <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>>>>> blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      If memory serves me James it's an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop isn't
>>>>>      it?  When you say it's running hot, how hot are we talking? The
>>>>>      BIOS should give you some temperatures, plus there are a couple of
>>>>>      free apps you can use to monitor CPU and motherboard temps, maybe
>>>>>      worth playing around with those tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>      Olly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      On 3 Jul 2015 14:29, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>>>      <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         My 2p is:  Don't take the laptop apart yet!
>>>>>
>>>>>         Take a look at the "maximum processor state" setting and
>>>>> experiment
>>>>>         with turning it down (assuming it's Windoze, but I am sure
>>>>>      Linux has
>>>>>         a similar tweak).
>>>>>
>>>>>         You haven't overclocked it and forgotten have you?!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +0100
>>>>>          > From: olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>>>>>          > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>>>      <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>>>          > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > Hi James,
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > I'll be there tomorrow, I don't mind helping you take your
>>>>>      laptop
>>>>>         if you
>>>>>          > want, do you have any thermal paste and rubbing alcohol?
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > Regards
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > Olly
>>>>>          >
>>>>>          > On 02/07/15 17:01, James Page wrote:
>>>>>          > > I think I need to stick some new thermal paste on my
>>>>> laptop's
>>>>>         CPU. Cleaning
>>>>>          > > out the vents etc hasn't helped to decrease the running
>>>>> temp.
>>>>>         Will there be
>>>>>          > > anybody around who could guide me through it? It's not
>>>>>         something I've done
>>>>>          > > before.
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > > Best wishes,
>>>>>          > > James
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > > On 2 July 2015 at 13:02, Arthur Garlick
>>>>>         <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>>>      <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>          > >
>>>>>          > >> Hi,I've just been asked to help out on a Scout camp this
>>>>>         Saturday so won't
>>>>>          > >> be there :o(.
>>>>>          > >> It's been too hot to be indoors hacking this week. I've
>>>>> been
>>>>>         in my garden
>>>>>          > >> trying to get as far as I can hacking the tree stumps and
>>>>>         roots before
>>>>>          > >> deploying the chemical warfare.
>>>>>          > >> It's bad form to use a chainsaw on anything but clean
>>>>> wood,
>>>>>         even if you
>>>>>          > >> powerwash the roots the grit remains and ruins the
>>>>> chain, a
>>>>>         man should look
>>>>>          > >> after his tools and the chain can pickup something sharp
>>>>> and
>>>>>         fling it at
>>>>>          > >> your head... But the convenience and speed of a chainsaw
>>>>>      makes
>>>>>         cutting a
>>>>>          > >> stump out a lot less of a chore (actually it becomes an
>>>>>         enjoyable job!). I
>>>>>          > >> was doing this with two expensive chains and sharpening
>>>>> the
>>>>>         chains between
>>>>>          > >> runs last year, which is tedious and it doesn't take long
>>>>>         before the grit
>>>>>          > >> ruins the way the chains run in the saw and they have to
>>>>> be
>>>>>         dumped anyway.
>>>>>          > >> Cheap Chinese goods to the rescue yet again, at £5 a pop
>>>>>      for a
>>>>>         new chain it
>>>>>          > >> makes it economical to use the chainsaw (it's still
>>>>> scarily
>>>>>         unsafe though,
>>>>>          > >> plenty of protection req'd). I have two cheapo chains
>>>>> and I'm
>>>>>         still on the
>>>>>          > >> first one, I'll probably resharpen them once and then
>>>>> dump
>>>>>         them as running
>>>>>          > >> them too long is probably damaging the saw itself.
>>>>>          > >>
>>>>>          > >> After looking at the Makerspace progress I had another
>>>>>      look at
>>>>>         my lower
>>>>>          > >> ground floor space and decided I am going to do a proper
>>>>> job
>>>>>         same as Mike.
>>>>>          > >> I'll take the walls down to brick, tanking slurry, 25mm
>>>>> of
>>>>>         insulation,
>>>>>          > >> battens and probably I will go for OSB walls in this
>>>>>      workshop.
>>>>>         Floor is
>>>>>          > >> screeded, I have read that should go back down to the
>>>>>      concrete
>>>>>         slab for the
>>>>>          > >> tanking slurry to really bond in. I don't have any major
>>>>> damp
>>>>>         issues in
>>>>>          > >> this room and I'm loath to take out the screeded floor as
>>>>>      it's
>>>>>         quite well
>>>>>          > >> done. So I won't get a good tanking fillet between the
>>>>> wall
>>>>>         brickwork and
>>>>>          > >> floor (I believe the tanking will not bond in with the
>>>>>         screeded floor but I
>>>>>          > >> will come it from the wall for about a metre with the
>>>>> tanking
>>>>>         anyway). I
>>>>>          > >> am thinking of using the sheet you use to tank a shower
>>>>>         wetroom to overlap
>>>>>          > >> the wall/floor join by a metre or so. 25mm foam
>>>>> insulation on
>>>>>         the floor on
>>>>>          > >> top of the wetroom style tanking sheet and a floating
>>>>>         chipboard floor.
>>>>>          > >> Door frames will stay as is, most people including myself
>>>>>      will
>>>>>         fit under
>>>>>          > >> them without having to duck! OSB walls will be a great
>>>>> base
>>>>>         for a shelving
>>>>>          > >> and storage system. It's not a massive space so the costs
>>>>>         won't mount up.
>>>>>          > >>
>>>>>          > >> I will be at Preston Raspberry Jam with my soldering iron
>>>>>         helping out
>>>>>          > >> younglings with a soldering project. I have promised
>>>>> someone
>>>>>         I'll have the
>>>>>          > >> ESP8266 project done and written up on the blog by then
>>>>>      too...
>>>>>         we'll see
>>>>>          > >> how that goes.
>>>>>          > >>
>>>>>          > >> Regards
>>>>>          > >> Arthur
>>>>>          > >>> From: mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>>>>>      <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>>          > >>> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>>>      <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>>>          > >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:49:22 +0100
>>>>>          > >>> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>>>          > >>>
>>>>>          > >>> Tyldesley Road will be open as usual Saturday from 10am.
>>>>>          > >>>
>>>>>          > >>> Best regards
>>>>>          > >>>
>>>>>          > >>> Mike Hull
>>>>>          > >>>
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